Wash: So, two days in a hospital? That's awful. Don't you just hate doctors? Simon: Hey. Wash: I mean, present company excluded. Jayne: Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude.

'Ariel'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Polter-Cow - Jun 06, 2004 11:01:19 am PDT #8313 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Villians/Two to Go/Grave season-ender.

You know, the first time I watched, I thought it was great and exciting and stuff, but watching it now, Dark Willow bugs me. She's so talky and antagonistic, but in an annoying rather than a threatening way. And then all that "I'm so juiced"/"Who's your supplier?" crap just brought the magic-is-drugs thing back.

(although my husband likes "Gone" so I enjoy watching it for his sake--he's a bit of a Fury fan, I think).

While I enjoy invisibility as much as the next chap (and I found the invisible fight scene amusing), the completely ridiculous characterization of Buffy bugs the crap out of me. And Sarah Michelle Gellar sounds like she literally phoned in her performance. There was a lot of potential to be wrought from that premise as her issues were set up before she disappeared, but instead examining how Buffy feels not being there, she goes around playing stupid jokes on people. And really, who says, "So long, coppa!"?


Lee - Jun 06, 2004 11:15:55 am PDT #8314 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

she goes around playing stupid jokes on people. And really, who says, "So long, coppa!"?

And that's not even addressing how inexcusable what she did to the social worker was.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2004 11:24:44 am PDT #8315 of 10001
What is even happening?

And that's not even addressing how inexcusable what she did to the social worker was.

I think you and Allyson are the only people I can remember being bothered by that part (I'm probably just forgetting). I am a bad person and actually enjoyed that part a lot.

And Sarah Michelle Gellar sounds like she literally phoned in her performance.

Yes.

And really, who says, "So long, coppa!"?

Heh. It didn't sound like Buffy, but Buffy does have some whimsy in her, and can be corny too, so I was okayish with that.

For me "good/interesting/important" qualifies as "enjoyable ."

Me too, but less so on a rewatch, and even less so with episodes I've already rewatched (which includes all of season 6).

But then I love watching The Body.

Me too, but in addition to finding it good/interesting/important, I find it powerful, the way I find Becoming, Dead Things, Normal Again, and Seeing Red powerful.

Wrecked? I don't find it powerful. Of course YPowerfulMV. Doublemeat Palace, As You Were, and a few others come to mind, too.


§ ita § - Jun 06, 2004 11:26:38 am PDT #8316 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think you and Allyson are the only people I can remember being bothered by that part

Nah, they're not. I thought it was petty and unamusing. Sure, you can take a day off from saving the world, but I much prefer her other stupid past times (like Spike's dick).


ted r - Jun 06, 2004 12:00:17 pm PDT #8317 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

Wrecked? I don't find it powerful. Of course YPowerfulMV. Doublemeat Palace, As You Were, and a few others come to mind, too.

Oh I don't care for Wrecked, or Gone, or DMP (I liked AYW) but every season has a few clunkers. For me seasaon 6 is tied with Season 3 in terms of a positive Great to Clunkers ratio.

The operative words being "for me" of course.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2004 12:00:46 pm PDT #8318 of 10001
What is even happening?

(Heh.)

eta (my parenthetical heh was to ita's parenthetical)


Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2004 12:03:40 pm PDT #8319 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oh I don't care for Wrecked, or Gone, or DMP (I liked AYW) but every season has a few clunkers. For me seasaon 6 is tied with Season 3 in terms of a positive Great to Clunkers ratio.

Yes, me too. I started out by saying how much I liked the season. I was another of the few who cared for AYW. I just don't find it powerful, and am not slathering over the prospect of rewatching it, despite the fact that I found it good/interesting/important the first (few) times around.


SailAweigh - Jun 06, 2004 1:10:35 pm PDT #8320 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I may wait awhile to rewatch S6. I finally rewatched S2, despite having the DVDs for a year or more, along with a Buffy-neophyte and found myself enjoying it muchly. I didn't particularly care for the Romeo/Juliet doomed romance crap going on, but I still liked episodes such as "Passion." And "Becoming I/II" is still one of the best finales out there. Strips Buffy to the bone emotionally and shows us the best and worst of her. Plus, classic Spike and Dru. Makes it all worth while. My friend watching really fell for Spike and kept asking me how he and Buffy ever got together (she's caught a few reruns on FX, and she knows I read Spuffy online.) Told her she's just going to have to watch and see.


ted r - Jun 06, 2004 1:49:44 pm PDT #8321 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

Plus, classic Spike and Dru.

I find Spike not particularly interesting until after he was crippled in What's My Line 2. Before that he seems to me a fairly typical bad guy. But once he is replaced as the Big Bad by Angel he starts to develop the depths that will make him one of my favorite Buffyverse characters in S5-7 and A5.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 06, 2004 3:51:53 pm PDT #8322 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

It seemed pretty transparent to me. She was acting up and acting out, because her life sucked. Her father ignored her. She'd just found out she wasn't real. Her mother died. The only person who seemed to really love her died, and then was dragged out of heaven, and was a depressed crank who was ignoring her and babying her.

Did you all notice that klepto!dawn it was first presented in Intervention (still my almost favorite ep)? I still remember thinking Dawn Stealing the Earrings would be Very Important, and then eventually giving up. Of course, I still feel a bit like the Love, Give, Forgive was dropped a bit, although I guess that is what happened at the end of Chosen.

Also, in rewatching Intervention for the 50 millioneth time, I am so surprised at myself at the shock WRT to Buffy's death in the Gift. I mean, the first slayer out and out says "Death is your Gift." and "Love will lead you to your gift" and yet I was never so sure of anything as I was of Buffy not dying.