Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't we to become one flesh? Mal: Well, no, uh... We're still two fleshes here, and I think that your flesh ought to sleep somewhere else.
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.
ted r - Jun 05, 2004 4:16:49 pm PDT #8288 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein
ted r - Jun 05, 2004 4:16:53 pm PDT #8289 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein
But the first four seasons did happen the way they did. It's just that no one remembers it that way. All this insertion of Dawn into the story is just looking at fake memories.
True.
But I think it is a cool idea to do the animated series from the pov of the altered memories.
RobertH - Jun 05, 2004 5:54:31 pm PDT #8290 of 10001
Disaffected college student
If the animated series ever actually happens for real, I'll probably just end up hoping it turns into something like an anthology, skipping here and there around the Buffyverse.
SailAweigh - Jun 06, 2004 7:31:53 am PDT #8291 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I have no problem with watching early Buffy with Dawn. It's not as if what happened never happened in the first four seasons, we just never saw what was happening to Dawn. Nothing that Dawn did was pivotal, or if it was, it would be a good way to explain some of the asspulls from earlier seasons. It's not like she was necessary to stop any of the apocalypses. At the most, her presence (or lack of it) would be like an unfilmed "Zeppo" episode. I say, bring it on.
DavidS - Jun 06, 2004 7:45:30 am PDT #8292 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
(Do I actually really sit this alone in the "I really like Dawn" corner?)
I really liked the Dawn that they tried to create in the shooting scripts, but who kept getting cut for time out of the final aired episodes. She was snarky and proto-goth morbid with a kind of gleeful, somewhat violent (like Fred) streak.
SailAweigh - Jun 06, 2004 8:57:05 am PDT #8293 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
She was snarky and proto-goth morbid with a kind of gleeful, somewhat violent (like Fred) streak.
Heh, she liked to listen to Spike's stories, didn't she? She would have been totally "go, you" if he'd been able to finish the coal bin story properly.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 06, 2004 9:47:32 am PDT #8294 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Well yeah, IsThisBlood?Dawn and DoYouReallyThinkI'mAfraidOfYouBecauseYou'reTheSlayer?Dawn showed a fair amount of promise. Unfortunately, we got about 60 episodes of GetOutGetOut!GETOUT!Dawn to go along with those brief glimmers.
Volans - Jun 06, 2004 9:56:01 am PDT #8295 of 10001
move out and draw fire
And unexplainedly klepto Dawn, and...nah, I don't even want to think about her. Hated Dawn. Realized how much I hated the Slayerettes in the final season when I would get relieved to see Dawn on screen. With Matt in thinking that a looney bin without Dawn beats working at Doublemeat Palace and going home to Dawn.
I don't remember them sucking this much the first time around.
Crap. I've always assumed that I'll like them better when I watch them again. I felt betrayed by the series at the time; then I thought I'd look back and see how mature and good they were.
Polter-Cow - Jun 06, 2004 9:58:02 am PDT #8296 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
IsThisBlood?Dawn
I love IsThisBlood?Dawn. That's one of the moments that stayed with me for a long time. I really like what Michelle Trachtenberg does with her voice when she gets emotional like that.
Unfortunately, we got about 60 episodes of GetOutGetOut!GETOUT!Dawn to go along with those brief glimmers.
Oh God. And the TWoP recaps kept mentioning how often she flounced, and I never really noticed, but now it's so incredibly blatant. I've lost count of all the flouncing. Gosh, kid, walk away normally for once.
Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2004 10:01:03 am PDT #8297 of 10001
What is even happening?
And unexplainedly klepto Dawn
It seemed pretty transparent to me. She was acting up and acting out, because her life sucked. Her father ignored her. She'd just found out she wasn't real. Her mother died. The only person who seemed to really love her died, and then was dragged out of heaven, and was a depressed crank who was ignoring her and babying her.
Also? Summers blood. The monks made her out of Buffy, who shoplifted before she was a slayer (see the 'calling of the slayer' flashback in Becoming).