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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


SailAweigh - Jun 06, 2004 7:31:53 am PDT #8291 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I have no problem with watching early Buffy with Dawn. It's not as if what happened never happened in the first four seasons, we just never saw what was happening to Dawn. Nothing that Dawn did was pivotal, or if it was, it would be a good way to explain some of the asspulls from earlier seasons. It's not like she was necessary to stop any of the apocalypses. At the most, her presence (or lack of it) would be like an unfilmed "Zeppo" episode. I say, bring it on.


DavidS - Jun 06, 2004 7:45:30 am PDT #8292 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(Do I actually really sit this alone in the "I really like Dawn" corner?)

I really liked the Dawn that they tried to create in the shooting scripts, but who kept getting cut for time out of the final aired episodes. She was snarky and proto-goth morbid with a kind of gleeful, somewhat violent (like Fred) streak.


SailAweigh - Jun 06, 2004 8:57:05 am PDT #8293 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

She was snarky and proto-goth morbid with a kind of gleeful, somewhat violent (like Fred) streak.

Heh, she liked to listen to Spike's stories, didn't she? She would have been totally "go, you" if he'd been able to finish the coal bin story properly.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 06, 2004 9:47:32 am PDT #8294 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well yeah, IsThisBlood?Dawn and DoYouReallyThinkI'mAfraidOfYouBecauseYou'reTheSlayer?Dawn showed a fair amount of promise. Unfortunately, we got about 60 episodes of GetOutGetOut!GETOUT!Dawn to go along with those brief glimmers.


Volans - Jun 06, 2004 9:56:01 am PDT #8295 of 10001
move out and draw fire

And unexplainedly klepto Dawn, and...nah, I don't even want to think about her. Hated Dawn. Realized how much I hated the Slayerettes in the final season when I would get relieved to see Dawn on screen. With Matt in thinking that a looney bin without Dawn beats working at Doublemeat Palace and going home to Dawn.

I don't remember them sucking this much the first time around.

Crap. I've always assumed that I'll like them better when I watch them again. I felt betrayed by the series at the time; then I thought I'd look back and see how mature and good they were.


Polter-Cow - Jun 06, 2004 9:58:02 am PDT #8296 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

IsThisBlood?Dawn

I love IsThisBlood?Dawn. That's one of the moments that stayed with me for a long time. I really like what Michelle Trachtenberg does with her voice when she gets emotional like that.

Unfortunately, we got about 60 episodes of GetOutGetOut!GETOUT!Dawn to go along with those brief glimmers.

Oh God. And the TWoP recaps kept mentioning how often she flounced, and I never really noticed, but now it's so incredibly blatant. I've lost count of all the flouncing. Gosh, kid, walk away normally for once.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2004 10:01:03 am PDT #8297 of 10001
What is even happening?

And unexplainedly klepto Dawn

It seemed pretty transparent to me. She was acting up and acting out, because her life sucked. Her father ignored her. She'd just found out she wasn't real. Her mother died. The only person who seemed to really love her died, and then was dragged out of heaven, and was a depressed crank who was ignoring her and babying her.

Also? Summers blood. The monks made her out of Buffy, who shoplifted before she was a slayer (see the 'calling of the slayer' flashback in Becoming).


Lee - Jun 06, 2004 10:02:16 am PDT #8298 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I've always assumed that I'll like them better when I watch them again.

So had I. Unfortunately, I think Katie M nailed it when she said:

Well, the first time around you don't know that you've got thirteen more episodes of this to go.

I am getting some fun out of it, since I still llove OMWF, and I knew enough to fast forward the Loan Shark part of Tabula Rasa.

I seem to have stalled at the prospect of watching Doublemeat Palace again. Maybe tonight, when I am too tired to care how much it sucks.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 06, 2004 10:04:21 am PDT #8299 of 10001
What is even happening?

I've always assumed that I'll like them better when I watch them again.

So had I. Unfortunately, I think Katie M nailed it when she said:

Well, the first time around you don't know that you've got thirteen more episodes of this to go.

This is like a jumbled version of me. I liked season 6 the first time around. I liked it when I rewatched select episodes between seasons 6 and 7. I couldn't wait to get the DVDs. Now I have had them for a week, and can't make myself start watching. It is a hard season, and a lot of the non-Buffista fandom really came close to ruining it for me.


Polter-Cow - Jun 06, 2004 10:05:13 am PDT #8300 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

knew enough to fast forward the Loan Shark part of Tabula Rasa.

I love the Loan Shark. Cause, get it?! He's a shark! Sorry, but I found it terribly amusing.

I seem to have stalled at the prospect of watching Doublemeat Palace again. Maybe tonight, when I am too tired to care how much it sucks.

That was a weird episode cause the TV Guide episode guide called it one of the best episodes of the season or something, and then I watched it and was all, "Buh?"

Willow's pseudo-science in that episode bugged me. SCIENCE IS NOT ALL ABOUT COLORED LIQUIDS. IN FACT, MOST LIQUIDS ARE FUCKING CLEAR.