I watched most episodes of S4 three times the week they aired.
It was gooooooooooood.
Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.
'Dirty Girls'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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P.M. Marc - Apr 21, 2004 6:50:57 pm PDT #7678 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
OtherKate - Apr 21, 2004 7:04:13 pm PDT #7679 of 10001
This heart ain't gonna cut itself out
Hmmm...
BtVS 3 (I can't think of an ep that I dislike and the Faith/Buffy arc rocked)
AtS 4 (Every. Minute of it.)
BtVS 2, AtS 2 tie (Gah. All of it - futile, sad, and lovely.)
AtS 3 (there are things in there that make me crazy (Cordelia), but overall goodness)
BtVS 1 (Shiny!)
AtS 1
BtVS 6 (word on the depression arc, but the season fell apart at the end for me)
BtVS 4
BtVS 5
BtVS 7 - (ugh. Add 100 points for Selfless. Deduct a thousand points for potential squandered)
Not putting AtS 5 in there yet, since I need to see the whole season.
§ ita § - Apr 21, 2004 7:05:43 pm PDT #7680 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If Angel S2 had stopped one episode before Pylea, I'd call it my favourite season of TV ever.
The bastards.
Maysa - Apr 21, 2004 7:54:29 pm PDT #7681 of 10001
I agree with you, Plei. Season four of Angel was just so frickin' cohesive - start to finish - so consistent emotionally. So great. Even though I like Seasons 2 of BtVS better (because of the 2nd half), I know intellectually that AtS S4 was better. I would rank them:
BtVS S2
AtS S4
BtVS S3
AtS S2
BtVS S4
BtVS S1
AtS S1
AtS S3
BtVS S5
BtVS S6
BtVS S7
AtS S5
Gris - Apr 21, 2004 8:01:22 pm PDT #7682 of 10001
Hey. New board.
Maybe I need to watch AtS season four again. Honestly, I didn't love it. Connor caused me physical pain at times with his badness, and Jasmine was not my favorite big bad at all. I liked the earlier guy better.
Badass Wesley was foamy, though.
Did like the Willow/Fred flirtation in that one episode an awful lot. They're clearly made for each other.
P.M. Marc - Apr 21, 2004 8:02:30 pm PDT #7683 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I loved the BonBon.
And I adored Jasmine.
And I need S4 on DVD, so I can wallow. Mmm.
Polter-Cow - Apr 21, 2004 8:04:15 pm PDT #7684 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
And I need S4 on DVD, so I can wallow. Mmm.
Me too. Did you hear? SEVEN COMMENTARY TRACKS. My God.
And the S4 Overview? IS FORTY MINUTES LONG.
Come now, September. Come now, damn you!
OtherKate - Apr 21, 2004 8:05:03 pm PDT #7685 of 10001
This heart ain't gonna cut itself out
S4 overview is that long? I can't wait!
Maysa - Apr 21, 2004 8:32:45 pm PDT #7686 of 10001
Connor caused me physical pain at times with his badness, and Jasmine was not my favorite big bad at all. I liked the earlier guy better.
I could write a long, long post about why Jasmine was the best big bad either show ever had, but since I really, really needed to be in bed about three hours ago I'll just say that Jasmine rocked because she was the exact opposite of every other big bad they ever had on the show. She was truly ambiguous - something that no other ME big bad ever was. You could make a case that Angel and the MoG were the big bads by the end of S4. You can't do that with any other season of Buffy or Angel.
Also, S4 should be hallowed just for the Connor/Angel rendition of "Mandy" alone. Best. Moment. Ever.
Polter-Cow - Apr 21, 2004 8:36:26 pm PDT #7687 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
She was truly ambiguous - something that no other ME big bad ever was.
Yes, Maysa, I totally agree. I wished they could have explored this more in "Peace Out," but then Connor put a hole in her.
Though I don't know...maybe the First Evil was actually working for good!