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ted r - Jan 04, 2004 6:13:59 pm PST #7095 of 10001

"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

I feel like the show itself was too hard on Buffy and not sufficiently hard on Riley throughout ItW and AYW.

Well that is a matter of one's pov (whether you identify more with Riley's situation or Buffy's). But I'm not suicidal enough to engage in THAT debate here. :)

Elena - Jan 04, 2004 6:14:53 pm PST #7096 of 10001

Thanks for all the fish.

Sure, but the show's not called Riley, boyfriend of the Vampire Slayer.

Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:19:04 pm PST #7097 of 10001

I look more rad than Lutheranism

(whether you identify more with Riley's situation or Buffy's)

Hmm. I can't quite feel sorry for Riley. He felt neglected because his girlfriend wasn't as attentive as he'd like -- because her mother had a BRAIN TUMOR??? Too fucking bad. Grow up, honey. Your girlfriend might just be a little preoccupied for a while.

P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2004 6:20:04 pm PST #7098 of 10001

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You know, it's possible to sympathize with Riley to an extent and still see that, all pretense of moral relativism aside, the boy was wronger than a wrong thing that's got the wrong answer after taking a wrong turn into Wrongville whilst driving the Wrongwagon.

Which would be the reason that the narrative jars.

Katie M - Jan 04, 2004 6:21:28 pm PST #7099 of 10001

I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, Plei speaks for me in this case.

Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:25:17 pm PST #7100 of 10001

I look more rad than Lutheranism

Don't get me wrong -- I am the neediest person alive. I understand Riley being a needy greedy boyfriend. And yet blaming Buffy for why he got suckjobs is still wrong.

P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2004 6:26:13 pm PST #7101 of 10001

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Don't get me wrong -- I am the neediest person alive. I understand Riley being a needy greedy boyfriend. And yet blaming Buffy for why he got suckjobs is still wrong.

Yep.

Wrong.

YWrongShouldNOTVary in cases such as this.

Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:27:58 pm PST #7102 of 10001

I look more rad than Lutheranism

Because, I gotta say (again), that if Riley were going to human hookers for actual sex, and he tried to blame that on Buffy, he would have gotten a much bigger smackdown.

"I go to hookers because you don't pay enough attention to me....how's your Mom's brain tumor, by the way?"

Uh, I don't think so, Jack. Try fucking yourself.

Elena - Jan 04, 2004 6:30:40 pm PST #7103 of 10001

Thanks for all the fish.

And, really, as soon as Joyce's immediate health crisis was over Buffy dumped Dawn on Xander and sexed Riley up and down and sideways. It was the fact that she didn't lean on him enough that somehow emasculated him.

Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:32:21 pm PST #7104 of 10001

I look more rad than Lutheranism

It was the fact that she didn't lean on him enough that somehow emasculated him.

Which is pathetic, yo. Plus, that's just the way Buffy operates. Love Buffy, love her quirks.

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