Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.

'Dirty Girls'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:19:04 pm PST #7097 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

(whether you identify more with Riley's situation or Buffy's)

Hmm. I can't quite feel sorry for Riley. He felt neglected because his girlfriend wasn't as attentive as he'd like -- because her mother had a BRAIN TUMOR??? Too fucking bad. Grow up, honey. Your girlfriend might just be a little preoccupied for a while.


P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2004 6:20:04 pm PST #7098 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You know, it's possible to sympathize with Riley to an extent and still see that, all pretense of moral relativism aside, the boy was wronger than a wrong thing that's got the wrong answer after taking a wrong turn into Wrongville whilst driving the Wrongwagon.

Which would be the reason that the narrative jars.


Katie M - Jan 04, 2004 6:21:28 pm PST #7099 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, Plei speaks for me in this case.


Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:25:17 pm PST #7100 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Don't get me wrong -- I am the neediest person alive. I understand Riley being a needy greedy boyfriend. And yet blaming Buffy for why he got suckjobs is still wrong.


P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2004 6:26:13 pm PST #7101 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Don't get me wrong -- I am the neediest person alive. I understand Riley being a needy greedy boyfriend. And yet blaming Buffy for why he got suckjobs is still wrong.

Yep.

Wrong.

YWrongShouldNOTVary in cases such as this.


Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:27:58 pm PST #7102 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Because, I gotta say (again), that if Riley were going to human hookers for actual sex, and he tried to blame that on Buffy, he would have gotten a much bigger smackdown.

"I go to hookers because you don't pay enough attention to me....how's your Mom's brain tumor, by the way?"

Uh, I don't think so, Jack. Try fucking yourself.


Elena - Jan 04, 2004 6:30:40 pm PST #7103 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

And, really, as soon as Joyce's immediate health crisis was over Buffy dumped Dawn on Xander and sexed Riley up and down and sideways. It was the fact that she didn't lean on him enough that somehow emasculated him.


Steph L. - Jan 04, 2004 6:32:21 pm PST #7104 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

It was the fact that she didn't lean on him enough that somehow emasculated him.

Which is pathetic, yo. Plus, that's just the way Buffy operates. Love Buffy, love her quirks.


Elena - Jan 04, 2004 6:34:05 pm PST #7105 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

Hell, yeah.

He loves her quirks and her strength and her dedication? Then don't expect her to change, boyo.


P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2004 6:34:07 pm PST #7106 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Which is pathetic, yo. Plus, that's just the way Buffy operates. Love Buffy, love her quirks.

Yup. Don't go trying to make her something she's not. Date her for a year, and freak when she acts... like herself?

Oooooooooookay. Right-o.