Willow: Happy hunting. Buffy: Wish me monsters.

'Beneath You'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Steph L. - May 18, 2003 12:01:45 pm PDT #559 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

She's saying that the Bringers have a hive mind. If one Bringer knows something, they all know something. So when the gang got the Bringer to talk, all the Bringers (and by extension, the First) knew what the plan was going to be and they could set up a trap at the arsenal.

That also puts a different spin on Giles slicing the Bringer's throat. Because a few (or maybe more than a few) people thought it looked like he didn't want the Scoobies et al. to know any more; but with this explanation, it makes it seem that he didn't want the Bringer hivemind to know what the Scoobies were planning.

But the fact that it had to be explained in an interview with the writers? Sloppy writing. It could have been explained with one or two sentences, which would also have served the purpose of making Giles look more like old!Giles, the Giles who actually knew stuff.


Laura - May 18, 2003 12:06:27 pm PDT #560 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I can see Giles picking up on the "we" completely. I feel much better about this, although I am somewhat surprised that I didn't get this myself. This may be something that comes out in the t sobbing again last episode. Clearly I need to rewatch.


Cindy - May 18, 2003 12:10:06 pm PDT #561 of 10001
Nobody

Will someone edit those links, please? My screen is maximized and I still have to scroll sideways (uphill, barefoot, in a snowbank, in the middle of January, at midnight) to read all the posts.


P.M. Marc - May 18, 2003 12:27:41 pm PDT #562 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Cindy, done.


Cindy - May 18, 2003 12:31:07 pm PDT #563 of 10001
Nobody

Blessings on you and your house. I really wanted to read ted's post. And of course now, I realize I could have if I just loaded the page starting with his post. So I've whinged for nothing. I feel like my kids.


ted r - May 18, 2003 12:50:17 pm PDT #564 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

Ted, the end of your essay got cut off.

Oops-thanks Daniel.

The end (there wasn't much more):

Does watching-and indeed participating in- Spike's struggle spark other feelings? Probably; she isn't in love with him, but Buffy is intimately involved in Spike's path to redemption, and intimate feelings can be hard to keep in clear channels. Certainly Spike's feelings for Buffy threaten to spill over into sexual desire. And that is the FE's last hope-that it can play on the emotion of jealousy to bring Spike over even now.

Personally, I think the FE will fail. As with Xander stopping Dark willow last year, I'm confident the last episode will confirm one of BTVS's main mission statements-Love can redeem.

Laura-thanks for the vibes!


julie beth - May 18, 2003 1:36:24 pm PDT #565 of 10001

Will someone edit those links, please?

ooops! sorry, didn't realize that could/would be a problem. thanks for fixing!


HoyaSaxa - May 18, 2003 5:20:29 pm PDT #566 of 10001
Diablo Robotico Up.

Hasta la goodbye come Tuesday.

I reassert: This series finale will leave us with more questions than answers. Whedon doesn't play conventional with us ("there will never be a 'very special' Buffy"), and I think some doors will stay wide freakin' open for either the spinoff, Angel, or for we the Buffistas to deal with in the future.


Jon B. - May 18, 2003 5:26:06 pm PDT #567 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

the music of buffy

I'd like this story more if moments 2-5 weren't all mushed together into two half sentences.


Lyra Jane - May 18, 2003 5:31:59 pm PDT #568 of 10001
Up with the sun

The Flamingos' "I Only Have Eyes For You" served as the theme of a tale of doomed teenage lovers' possession and passion across the decades. (Season 3, "I Only Have Eyes For You")

They got this wrong, too. (in terms of seasons, that is. Not in terms of the use of the song beign incredible.)

Seems like a good concept but muddled execution.