We're in love. We're ... lovers. We're lesbian, gay-type lovers.

Willow ,'Potential'


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DCJensen - Aug 08, 2003 8:46:56 pm PDT #4416 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

But before "Hush" aired, would you have thought of Willow as being closeted?

Doppelgangland.


DCJensen - Aug 08, 2003 8:48:59 pm PDT #4417 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Where do folks find high res caps, anyway?

Sometimes I make them but not since my reception started sucking.


P.M. Marc - Aug 08, 2003 8:54:37 pm PDT #4418 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

What res?

Pretty good. Can't remember where I found it. There was a site up for a while that had captures from the DVDs. I grabbed a lot.

The one I'm thinking of is a 2 meg file, and it's very pretty.


DCJensen - Aug 08, 2003 9:01:15 pm PDT #4419 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

That's very Hi res.


Gleebo - Aug 08, 2003 9:27:54 pm PDT #4420 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

When did anyone else first begin to think that they could/should make Evil Willow happen? For me it was Becoming Pt 2 in the hospital scene. Then again with the infamous pencil stake of death, showing that she could use magic(although minimal at the time) to get her out of situations.


Sean K - Aug 08, 2003 9:31:09 pm PDT #4421 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I don't remember a precise moment when I picked up on it (started watching S3), but I think I always kind of got that vibe from her, or at least started picking up on it as a possibility fairly early on.

And from what I understand, once she dabbled with magic, Dark Willow was always going to be part of her future arc, it was just a matter of finding the right way to do it.


Gleebo - Aug 08, 2003 10:22:07 pm PDT #4422 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

I agree that it was just a matter of finding the way to do it. Many will quibble that it wasn't the right way that they turned out doing to have it happen. But seriously what else were they gonna use to have Willow go evil that was a justifiable and believable reason? Someone stole her highlighter? The death of a loved one was the most powerful thing that could have fueled a chance in our lovable old Willow.

Although without we could have done without the magic addiction storyline that led up to this as well.


Noumenon - Aug 08, 2003 10:28:47 pm PDT #4423 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Maybe if she had been addicted to sniffing her highlighter, and then someone stole it...


DCJensen - Aug 08, 2003 10:41:36 pm PDT #4424 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Maybe she deserves a toaster of her own:

Farewell, reluctant chosen chick


brenda m - Aug 09, 2003 8:47:39 am PDT #4425 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Before Hush, would you have thought of Willow as closeted?

Closeted, no. But not-really-aware-yet, yes. I thought the chemistry between W and T in Hush was so very clear and directed that after that it wasn't so much a matter of "if" but "when." I think it's pretty plausible that it's an aspect of herself that had never really become apparent to her consciously, and that meeting a particular someone could bring it rushing to the surface.

Remember that for Willow, and all the scoobs, their social circle is pretty limited, both because of the secret nature of what they do and the time and focus it requires from them. Tara burst on the scene with her entry to that world already appparent - with the Gentlemen, she knew crazy shit was going on, and her witchcraft meant she didn't have to be lied to. What other women did Willow ever really get close to? Other than Jenny Calendar, who she did at least mildly crush on (though I see it as a "be her" rather than "want her" crush), there's only Buffy. So I can buy it as a part of her that she never really examined until Tara came along and it all came rushing to the surface.

He thought I was getting beat up by an abusive boyfriend.

My college career counselor grabbed my arm the first time I had an appt. with her and cried, "Who. Hit. YOU?" (I always had finger marks on my upper arms)

My sister fell and split her lip open the other day. My dad takes her to the ER for stitches. The doctor comes in, looks at my dad, and says "You the guy that did this?" all jokey-jokey. My dad recounted this story to me as a funny one. So very, very not.