When Dark!Willow took on Buffy, AH really put SMG to shame. There are little things, but they're teachable things.

Signed,
Unable To Let Go

When Dark!Willow took on Buffy, AH really put SMG to shame.

WROD!! That is why it was the only time I ever found myself cheering against Buffy. It was beyond my control. AH was just so much better...she SHOULD have kicked her ass. That simple.

AH was just so much better...she SHOULD have kicked her ass. That simple.

And she would have, too, if it wasn't for that meddling Giles....

I liked the slo-mo in the "80s training montage" but as others have noted, it only works for me if I close my eyes during the punching bag bit. I can ignore the obvious double doing the backflips, but those punches are painful. To me, that is. Clearly not to the punching bag.

Or at least that's my understanding of how it works. I don't argue that it's squicky for someone over 20 to sleep with someone under 16.

Can't recall the numbers now, but a huge proportion of teenage births stem from these kind of relationships. Even squickier.

I can ignore the obvious double doing the backflips, but those punches are painful. To me, that is. Clearly not to the punching bag.

And, depending on how much force she put into them, they may have been pretty painful to SMG, too.

depending on how much force she put into them, they may have been pretty painful to SMG, too.

I feel pretty confident she emerged completely unscathed.

I feel pretty confident she emerged completely unscathed.

Damn. That's just harsh.

I'm not sure if it's a state thing, so much as that most police department have better things to do than bust 22-year-olds for having 15-year-old girlfriends. So typically, if a guy is charged with statutory rape, it's because the girl's parents told the police.

yes, but the fact that the girl's parents approve/don't mind doesn't make it any less illegal, which is the impression that I got from Matt.

At any rate, I know they didn't write the chemistry into Hush; I remember reading either Joss or Marti say it surprised them when they saw it on film.

It's very much there. I remember clearly that at the moment when they clasped hands and slammed that vending machine across the room, all 3 of us watching (all gay) simultaneously exclaimed.

If Tara/Willow hadn't happened I don't think we would have expected it, IYKWIM.

I disagree, see above. Some of us expected it, anyway.

And I don't think it's slacking off. I can go three years between punches and look better than her. And if I didn't? Someone would yell at me and make me do it right.

As someone who had a 3 yr break from karate and went back, yes.

Chicks and fighting hits (predictably) close to home, so I admit I have made up my own rationale for this which has no basis in any fact to which I've been made privy -- she just didn't care any more, and no one dared call her on it..

t stands well behind ita and nods vigorously

I feel pretty confident she emerged completely unscathed.

Damn. That's just harsh.

But pretty spot on. I actually came into this thread just to say WROD on this whole issue. Can't get off it. I admit that having Buffy be skinny (not THAT skinny) and harmless looking is part of the *point* but all she'd have gotten putting supernatural strength behind her OMWF punches was a broken wrist.

It's a little thing, but I can't stand it when girls can't punch. ita's right (duh), you can teach some very basic things in about 5 minutes. Why, just last week I taught my brother's girlfriend how to punch. I don't think he appreciated it as much as she did...

t joins ita and smonster in the chickfighting corner

t notes that nobody looks especially surprised