That said, the extrapolations one can make by the presence of Dawn are intriguing to the point where even the 4-shot comic can be evolved even further.
Which really makes me wish they would do the cartoon.
We'd be dead. Can't get paid if you're dead.
Mal ,'Serenity'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Gandalfe - Aug 03, 2003 6:16:57 am PDT #4144 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
sj - Aug 03, 2003 8:12:35 am PDT #4145 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
UHm, pre-WttHMm Buffy burned down a school. I'd be surprised if she WASN'T committed for a short time.
I got the impression she was committed before this, not after.
brenda m - Aug 03, 2003 11:06:30 am PDT #4146 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Also, it doesn't fit with S1. I can't remember the instance, but Buffy slips and says something about vampires at one time, and it doesn't cause alarms to go off for Joyce, which you think it would if it was something you had had your daughter commited over.
UHm, pre-WttHMm Buffy burned down a school. I'd be surprised if she WASN'T committed for a short time.
Which could also account for Joyce not seeming to know anything about vampires. In Buffy's mind, the big issue is the vampires - to Hank and Joyce, the action is going to be by far the bigger issue than the delusional-sounding excuses she's throwing at them. The details of her ravings might not sink in to the extent that they'd trigger alarm bells later on.
If it did happen before the school incident...well, it's a weaker argument but could still hold. She's (in their eyes) delusional and raving about impossible things - it's the fact of the situation that matters more than the specifics of her ramblings.
victor infante - Aug 03, 2003 11:44:36 am PDT #4147 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I got the impression she was committed before this, not after.
Hmmm. Buffy's not particularly forthcoming with the details. She just says, "When I first saw vampires..." or words to that effect. Basically, all I'm saying is that Buffy had an intense period of violence and (to her parents' mind) delusions. And she was only institutionalized for a couple weeks (according to Buffy.) Really, it can be read as "before I came to Sunnydale," and be quite reasonably meaning, "When I burned down the gym because it was full of vampires, but nobody believed me and now I just say it was because it was full of asbestos." (as per WttHM.)
As retcon's go, I completely buy it.
Gandalfe - Aug 03, 2003 12:02:10 pm PDT #4148 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
Except that those of us who remember the movie know that she DIDN'T burn the building down by the end of it, so she must have done that later. There's no way she would consider anything that happened after the end of the movie to be when she first saw vampires, ergo, it must have been before the movie.
In other words, major asspull.
victor infante - Aug 03, 2003 12:07:47 pm PDT #4149 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Except that those of us who remember the movie know that she DIDN'T burn the building down by the end of it, so she must have done that later. There's no way she would consider anything that happened after the end of the movie to be when she first saw vampires, ergo, it must have been before the movie.
In other words, major asspull.
Not really. Joss has said repeatedly that Buffy the TV character DID burn down the gym--which was the ending that he WANTED to give the movie. He established it in the first episode.
WildDemon Cornelius - Aug 03, 2003 12:22:07 pm PDT #4150 of 10001
Take your fingers off it, don't you dare touch it, you know it don't belong to you, to you...
Yeah, the 1992 movie should not be considered canon when it comes to the TV show; the vampires can fly in the movie, they don't dust, and Buffy's watcher says that he is a reincarnation of many past watchers. Also, the stakes are a lot bigger (I mean the actual wooden stakes, not that the situation's more important, hehe)...maybe they're like cell phones, by 1997 they were a lot smaller and more compact the same way cell phones are.
sj - Aug 03, 2003 12:23:16 pm PDT #4151 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Also, Buffy is a senior in the movie.
Connie Neil - Aug 03, 2003 3:37:56 pm PDT #4152 of 10001
brillig
And vampires don't have the entertaining death scenes in the series as they do in the movie. Sigh.
JohnSweden - Aug 03, 2003 3:41:02 pm PDT #4153 of 10001
I can't even.