Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:31:21 pm PDT #4121 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I can see Buffy not advertising the fact that her parents sent her to a psych ward, but you'd think there would have been some comment (perhaps an apology) from Joyce upon learning that vampires are real at the end of Season 2.

Also, it doesn't fit with S1. I can't remember the instance, but Buffy slips and says something about vampires at one time, and it doesn't cause alarms to go off for Joyce, which you think it would if it was something you had had your daughter commited over.


Burrell - Aug 02, 2003 6:33:15 pm PDT #4122 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I thought that everything in "Normal Again" was sort of an alternate universe. But my memory of the episode isn't very good.


sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:36:14 pm PDT #4123 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I thought that everything in "Normal Again" was sort of an alternate universe. But my memory of the episode isn't very good.

There is a scene in between Buffy's delusions where she admits to Willow that she had been briefly committed by her parents afters she saw her first vampire. She wonders to Willow if she is still in the asylum and everything in Sunnydale is the real delusion.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 6:36:17 pm PDT #4124 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The hallucinations/alternate reality were intercut with scenes where Buffy was lucid. She revealed (to Willow, I think) that Joyce and Hank had actually had her committed at one point.

I'm thinking... if I could do things like bend steel bars and such, I could probably figure out a way to convince my parents that my ramblings about the supernatural weren't delusional after all.


sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:39:00 pm PDT #4125 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

if I could do things like bend steel bars and such, I could probably figure out a way to convince my parents that my ramblings about the supernatural weren't delusional after all.

I thought it was after seeing her first vampire but pre-calling so she didn't know the extent of her powers yet. I could be wrong.


Wolfram - Aug 02, 2003 6:44:57 pm PDT #4126 of 10001
Visilurking

She wasn't a slayer in the alternate reality, so she couldn't actually bend bars and such.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 6:46:21 pm PDT #4127 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Supposedly she was called before Merrick (or whaever her original watcher that we saw in "Becoming" was named) approached her at the school and got her to take up cemetary patrols as a hobby. She might not have realized the full extent of her strength at first, but it must have been obvious that something unnatural was going on.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 6:52:59 pm PDT #4128 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:57:55 pm PDT #4129 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

She wasn't a slayer in the alternate reality, so she couldn't actually bend bars and such.

Not in the alternate reality, but in Buffyverse reality, when she really was committed for telling her parents she saw vampires.

ETA: WILLOW: You are not in an institution. You have never been in an institution.

BUFFY: (whispers) Yes, I have.

WILLOW: What?

BUFFY: (sighs) Back when I saw my first vampires... (shot of the photo) I got so scared. I told my parents ... and they completely freaked out. They thought there was something seriously wrong with me. So they sent me to a clinic.

WILLOW: (shocked) You never said anything.

BUFFY: (tearful) I was only there a couple of weeks. I stopped talking about it, and they let me go. Eventually ... my parents just ... forgot.

WILLOW: God. That's horrible.

BUFFY: (crying) What if I'm still there? What if I never left that clinic?


DCJensen - Aug 02, 2003 8:27:23 pm PDT #4130 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

BUFFY: (sighs) Back when I saw my first vampires... (shot of the photo) I got so scared. I told my parents ... and they completely freaked out. They thought there was something seriously wrong with me. So they sent me to a clinic.

I still disagree with the majority on that scene.

I think it was a false memory induced by the drug as well. To make Buffy unsure of herself, unsure what is real.