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JoeCrow - Aug 02, 2003 5:54:01 pm PDT #4114 of 10001
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

Actually, it seemed like Buff did get a powerup when she got vamped in "Nightmares". She thrashed the Monster!Coach pretty easily, compared to her initial dustup with him. 'Course, it's hard to tell the difference between VampAmped!Buffy and JustifiedEndOFight!Buffy, so...

There's some support for the Slayer strength being a structural change rather than a supernatural addon. Giles had to drug her her to weaken her for the Cruciamentum, rather than relying on a magical de-enhancement. Circumstantial, but evidence none-the-less.

Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 6:00:06 pm PDT #4115 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd chalk that up to Giles and his fellow Watchers not being powerful (or unwise) enough to tamper with the mystical forces behind the Slayer. Medical exams, including a hospital stay in "Killed by Death" and the lengthy trip to a sanitarium revealed in "Normal Again," never revealed anything physically remarkable about Buffy.

sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:02:06 pm PDT #4116 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

the lengthy trip to a sanitarium revealed in "Normal Again,"

Technically when she is in the sanitarium she is no longer the slayer, just normal Buffy Summers who has gone crazy.

Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 6:07:12 pm PDT #4117 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

No, she revealed that she was committed for a time in the real world after burning down the gym at Hemery High. That would have been post-Choosing.

§ ita § - Aug 02, 2003 6:08:01 pm PDT #4118 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

whoops -- still can't read

sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:08:28 pm PDT #4119 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

No, she revealed that she was committed for a time in the real world after burning down the gym at Hemery High.

Sorry, I miss understood.

Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 6:27:47 pm PDT #4120 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I probably wasn't clear enough about it. It's one of those plot points that made people go "huh?" anyway. I can see Buffy not advertising the fact that her parents sent her to a psych ward, but you'd think there would have been some comment (perhaps an apology) from Joyce upon learning that vampires are real at the end of Season 2.

sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:31:21 pm PDT #4121 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I can see Buffy not advertising the fact that her parents sent her to a psych ward, but you'd think there would have been some comment (perhaps an apology) from Joyce upon learning that vampires are real at the end of Season 2.

Also, it doesn't fit with S1. I can't remember the instance, but Buffy slips and says something about vampires at one time, and it doesn't cause alarms to go off for Joyce, which you think it would if it was something you had had your daughter commited over.

Burrell - Aug 02, 2003 6:33:15 pm PDT #4122 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I thought that everything in "Normal Again" was sort of an alternate universe. But my memory of the episode isn't very good.

sj - Aug 02, 2003 6:36:14 pm PDT #4123 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I thought that everything in "Normal Again" was sort of an alternate universe. But my memory of the episode isn't very good.

There is a scene in between Buffy's delusions where she admits to Willow that she had been briefly committed by her parents afters she saw her first vampire. She wonders to Willow if she is still in the asylum and everything in Sunnydale is the real delusion.

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