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sj - Aug 02, 2003 4:56:32 pm PDT #4105 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

And given the situation Angelus was trying it in, I don't think he was anticipating a pissed-off former Slayer that would be even more powerful than he.

But, if she lost her soul in the process, I don't see her being pissed off, anymore than Dru is pissed at Angelus for torturing her before vamping her. She worships him because he is her sire.

Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 5:05:51 pm PDT #4106 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's iffy... remember that scene with the holy water in "What's My Line"? Sounded like a bit of a grudge being held to me, albeit over her slain relatives rather than what he did to her personally.

Still, the odds probably would have been good for Faith becoming a partner in crime rather than continuing to kick his ass.

sj - Aug 02, 2003 5:08:03 pm PDT #4107 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

remember that scene with the holy water in "What's My Line"?

Actually, I don't. Care to remind me?

DavidS - Aug 02, 2003 5:09:47 pm PDT #4108 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Actually, I don't. Care to remind me?

How can you forget that scene? Angel chained up and shirtless? Dru pouring holy water on him while talking about her family and watching smoke rising off his burning flesh?

sj - Aug 02, 2003 5:12:04 pm PDT #4109 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I am not sure I have seen it. I came in on S6 and have watched nearly every episode since then, but I have missed a few.

mikal - Aug 02, 2003 5:13:38 pm PDT #4110 of 10001
What I love most about you core whores: the foreplay .... tina F.

Note to self: Watch for re-run.

sj - Aug 02, 2003 5:25:32 pm PDT #4111 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I looked up the scene in the script. I am not sure I watched all of Part 2. Drusilla is dealing with a souled Angel in this scene, and it seems to me that she is trying to torture him with his misdeeds. Is there any example of her speaking to Angelus in that way?

§ ita § - Aug 02, 2003 5:26:24 pm PDT #4112 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dru was mad at Angel. She seemed pretty happy with Angelus.

sj - Aug 02, 2003 5:32:02 pm PDT #4113 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Plus, the more similarities, the more chance for Angel getting REALLY pissy. Which? Funny.

Yes, this is what I was trying to say. Thank you, ita.

JoeCrow - Aug 02, 2003 5:54:01 pm PDT #4114 of 10001
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

Actually, it seemed like Buff did get a powerup when she got vamped in "Nightmares". She thrashed the Monster!Coach pretty easily, compared to her initial dustup with him. 'Course, it's hard to tell the difference between VampAmped!Buffy and JustifiedEndOFight!Buffy, so...

There's some support for the Slayer strength being a structural change rather than a supernatural addon. Giles had to drug her her to weaken her for the Cruciamentum, rather than relying on a magical de-enhancement. Circumstantial, but evidence none-the-less.

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