And there are tears in my eyes and did you know stifling snorts of laughter hurts?
Hey, I made a Buffista laugh!
Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.
River ,'Objects In Space'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Maysa - May 16, 2003 11:03:56 am PDT #398 of 10001
Sophia Brooks - May 16, 2003 11:04:01 am PDT #399 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Spike-- will not be influenced by the first evil and Buffy/Angel's kiss and will stay by Buffy's side to the end
Buffy-- will either die or somehow lose her Slayer Power.
They will restore balance, which may end the Slayer line altogether.
Willow will become a guardian of the axe, like that old lady.
Giles will be Ethan.
Steph L. - May 16, 2003 11:08:05 am PDT #400 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Willow will become a guardian of the axe, like that old lady.
That would be a boring gig. IJS.
askye - May 16, 2003 11:09:20 am PDT #401 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
I always got the feeling that Wood was never going to play fair when it came to killing Spike.
In the high school did he start to say something to Spike before he went to stake him? I'm fuzzy on that but my impression was: Wood was going to stake Spike in the back and then maybe say "you killed my Mom" as Spike went to dust and then tell Buffy "oh, well one of the rampaging students got to Spike before I could save him."
Wood did play fair when played the trigger. It was just that the trigger turned Spike "bad" but also that it confused him and made him less coherent. Spike acted very animalistic and that wasn't the same way Spike acted at all when he killed Nikki, but it made Spike weaker, the same way taking him to a room with crosses nailed all over the walls made him weaker.
Katie M - May 16, 2003 11:11:00 am PDT #402 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
He had more than a clue. He'd been around Spike long enough to see trigger!Spike and good!Spike. You can't honestly say that Wood thought Spike was still evil when he started in on his mission to kill him.
You can make an argument based on cold logic - Spike was a danger, because of the trigger, and Buffy was unwilling to take the necessary steps to reduce that danger. (Which would not have had to include killing him.)
I totally agree that vengeance is not an okay reason to kill in the Buffyverse, though.
Lee - May 16, 2003 11:11:54 am PDT #403 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I think being just a Guardian of the Axe would be immensely boring, but I'd like it if Willow was able to replace the CoW with CoGuardians.
Glamcookie - May 16, 2003 11:14:34 am PDT #404 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
And Katie nails the reason that anyone would have been justified in taking Spike out. Trigger!Spike was actively killing people.
§ ita § - May 16, 2003 11:16:49 am PDT #405 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did Buffy's point that Spike would be a useful source of First-related info (what with the thrall, and stuff) come to anything?
But, yeah, soul. And not under his own control. I think the combo of the two would traditionally render the scoobs unable to kill.
Glamcookie - May 16, 2003 11:19:03 am PDT #406 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
I need to stop thinking about the season as a whole and concentrate on the last few eps, which I've enjoyed, as it's too crazymaking for me. Let's all just agree to disagree on whether Spike is great or a total wanker :)
Edited to say "agree to disagree on whether or not you find Spike to still be an interesting character."
Micole - May 16, 2003 11:26:35 am PDT #407 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.
It's no accident that Cordelia also suffered and died in the wishverse of The Wish. Vengeance harms everyone, even (especially) the seeker.
You know, as many times I watched "The Wish," I hadn't made that connection. Thank you, Cindy--and I appreciate the clarity of your thoughts on vengeance in the Buffyverse in general as well.