I miss Oz. He'd get it. He wouldn't say anything, but he'd get it.

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Jeff Mejia - May 16, 2003 9:40:28 am PDT #371 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

My whimsical theory for the day: when the First merged with *cough* had metaphysical sex with *cough* Caleb, his eyes went black, something we've seen as symbolic of possession by mysterious powers before, with Willow. Very notably, with Willow when she was possessed in "Becoming 2" and re-ensouled Angel. Offering a sort of back-handed suppot for the theory that the First had plans for Angel way back when, even before "Amends."

Actually, Willow's eyes did not go black during the re-ensouling spell in "Becoming 2" - she did seem to be posessed by something, but the only change in her appearance was due to the dramatic overhead lighting, causing her face (especially her eyes) to be in shadow.


Steph L. - May 16, 2003 9:44:22 am PDT #372 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

So, here's what I'm wondering:

What do we think is going to happen in the finale?


Katie M - May 16, 2003 10:05:41 am PDT #373 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

What do we think is going to happen in the finale?

Fight scene. Possibly two!


Fred Pete - May 16, 2003 10:09:09 am PDT #374 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Warm reconciliation scene.


Anne W. - May 16, 2003 10:10:15 am PDT #375 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Xander banging his head into the mirror and cackling "Where's Anya? Where's Anya?" t /still bitter over Twin Peaks finale


Sean K - May 16, 2003 10:12:50 am PDT #376 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Anne, my sister.


Glamcookie - May 16, 2003 10:13:11 am PDT #377 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

See, you all make really articulate cases for Spike not being staked. The problem is (sorry, Ted) the writers have fallen down on the job. I mean S3 Angel by all rights should have been staked after the whole Angelus thing. The reason we were able to move past it is because the writers made sure that we (the audience) could separate Angel from Angelus. It would have seemed heartless to kill Angel for Angelus' sins. Now, I think it would be very interesting to see Spike remain the same after being ensouled. Or to see his struggle to find his own identity, separate from Angel. However, it's all tainted (at least for me) by his relationship with Buffy. Take Buffy out of the equation and it could be really interesting and entertaining.


Steph L. - May 16, 2003 10:16:55 am PDT #378 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Xander banging his head into the mirror and cackling "Where's Anya? Where's Anya?"

Snerkity snerk.


Nora Deirdre - May 16, 2003 10:20:23 am PDT #379 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

See, you all make really articulate cases for Spike not being staked. The problem is (sorry, Ted) the writers have fallen down on the job.

Gloomcookie, I was just thinking the very same thing. I read the thoughful analysis here on the board and I think, where's *that* show? That's the show I want to watch.


Fred Pete - May 16, 2003 10:22:14 am PDT #380 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

See, you all make really articulate cases for Spike not being staked.

GC, I'm arguing something slightly different. If Spike had been staked because he'd gone back to feeding on people, no problem. He became the enemy soldier again, and if Buffy had no reason to know about the trigger, she couldn't be blamed for not acting on that info.

I'm just saying that Wood had no special moral ground to stake Spike over the death of his mother. For the reasons I gave above.