Warm reconciliation scene.
I tell you I have this theory. It goes where, you're the one who's not my sister. Cuz mom adopted you from a shoe box full of baby howler monkeys, and never told you cuz it could hurt your delicate baby feelings.
Dawn ,'Selfless'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.
Fred Pete - May 16, 2003 10:09:09 am PDT #374 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
Anne W. - May 16, 2003 10:10:15 am PDT #375 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Xander banging his head into the mirror and cackling "Where's Anya? Where's Anya?" t /still bitter over Twin Peaks finale
Sean K - May 16, 2003 10:12:50 am PDT #376 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Anne, my sister.
Glamcookie - May 16, 2003 10:13:11 am PDT #377 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
See, you all make really articulate cases for Spike not being staked. The problem is (sorry, Ted) the writers have fallen down on the job. I mean S3 Angel by all rights should have been staked after the whole Angelus thing. The reason we were able to move past it is because the writers made sure that we (the audience) could separate Angel from Angelus. It would have seemed heartless to kill Angel for Angelus' sins. Now, I think it would be very interesting to see Spike remain the same after being ensouled. Or to see his struggle to find his own identity, separate from Angel. However, it's all tainted (at least for me) by his relationship with Buffy. Take Buffy out of the equation and it could be really interesting and entertaining.
Steph L. - May 16, 2003 10:16:55 am PDT #378 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Xander banging his head into the mirror and cackling "Where's Anya? Where's Anya?"
Snerkity snerk.
Nora Deirdre - May 16, 2003 10:20:23 am PDT #379 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
See, you all make really articulate cases for Spike not being staked. The problem is (sorry, Ted) the writers have fallen down on the job.
Gloomcookie, I was just thinking the very same thing. I read the thoughful analysis here on the board and I think, where's *that* show? That's the show I want to watch.
Fred Pete - May 16, 2003 10:22:14 am PDT #380 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
See, you all make really articulate cases for Spike not being staked.
GC, I'm arguing something slightly different. If Spike had been staked because he'd gone back to feeding on people, no problem. He became the enemy soldier again, and if Buffy had no reason to know about the trigger, she couldn't be blamed for not acting on that info.
I'm just saying that Wood had no special moral ground to stake Spike over the death of his mother. For the reasons I gave above.
Steph L. - May 16, 2003 10:24:47 am PDT #381 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
w/r/t the finale....
Well, I think that there's going to have to be a Slayer transferrence of power, so that there's only one Slayer again. Faith mentioned it in the last episode, and that's not the kind of thing she normally mentions (although, yes, a few years in the slammer have given her some maturity).
And the quickly-forgotten Botox Eye said the Slayer line was fucked up. (I will be PISSED if they pull a S5-ending trick ["Oh, remember the dagon sphere from 15 episodes ago?" and suddenly start talking about the damn creepy eye thing.)
I feel like it's been set up that a transferrence of power is going to happen.
So, Buffy to Faith, or Faith to Buffy?
Or will Buffy die (again), thus ending the problem?
Will Faith die, and Buffy have to transfer her power to hat!girl? (I'm not spoiled; just thinking of what SiT would REALLY irritate me to be Slayer.)
Or if Faith dies, will Buffy *take* the power from the new Slayer?
I'm thinking that *Buffy* is the one whose power has to be transferred, because *she's* the one who shouldn't be there.
Thoughts?
Fred Pete - May 16, 2003 10:26:03 am PDT #382 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
(Sorry, it's lunchtime here. So I don't have cereal on my mind.)
I read the thoughful analysis here on the board and I think, where's *that* show? That's the show I want to watch.
Er, um, uh, you know, there could be a S8. We'd just need a thread so we could write it ourselves....
Glamcookie - May 16, 2003 10:30:15 am PDT #383 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Fred, I understand all of the arguments and see the points. I just don't agree. I think Wood became twisted in his quest for his mother's killer but I still think he would have been justified in killing him. Torturing him? NSM.
So do you think there are others who would be justified in staking Spike? If so, I'd be interested in who and for what reasons.