Also? I have this somber, lip-quivery feeling just walking into this thread.

I think I have to watch the finale with my Mom. I don't want to watch it alone.

Although we won't be able to talk about it afterward, because she segues immediately into 24, which has its finale next week.

Don't glottal stops pretty much have to follow a vowel by definition?

t /linguistics-ignorant

Another WTF moment for me and amyth: Buffy telling Spike AND Xander that they were her source of strength. Next she'll be telling Angel that. If she tells Andrew...

Am I alone in the not feeling the Andrew love? Every time he's on screen I wish that he were the dead one, not Jonathan.

Top 40! In last Buffy thread!

I don't think so, flea.

I'm another one who decided the AR never happened because it was just too ridiculous, out of character, and, frankly, icky. I hate that what was basically a case of Writers Run Amok defines one of the most interestng relationships on the show for many of you.

And, ooh, #4. Shiny.

Am I alone in the not feeling the Andrew love?

Nope. He's amused me occasionally, but the joke continues to grow thin.

Hey, my tagline is from the letters section on Salon today in response to yesterday's article on how Spike has spoilt the series. Go, Kelly Link!

Top 40?

Edit: Yay!

Will be more contentfull later.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.

I'm sticking to jengod's story.

Glottal stops can also begin a word. "of", for example.

Deb, one of the reasons I bought it (why she didn't manage to throw him off right away) was that she'd *just* been injured and was a little off her game, and when he caught her off guard, she hit her back in the same place she'd hit it before, which gave him enough time to get the advantage. She was able to recollect and toss him off, but it took a few seconds of clearing the physical pain, and another few of clearing the emotional shock before she was able to do that.

Yes this. But also yes to whomever said that no way was it actually going to be a rape. I almost want to call it the attempted attempted rape, because while I bought Buffy being caught hurt and off guard, my reaction quickly became, "He's going to get his ass kicked."

And I guess that's where the metaphor breaks down a bit, because in the real world most women don't have that option.

I also never thought Spike was horrified by what he tried to do. I think he was just recognized that Buffy was horrified, and that he made a major mistake, and that's what drove him to the soul.

Misdirection, yes, but I can fanwank him getting that soul two different ways. The first way is that, yes, he did go for the soul, and his words can be interpreted as being, "Now she can get what she deserves, a man with a soul." And his biting those words out were because he was disgusted to have to get a soul to be with her, and he knew that him coming back with a soul would cause all kinds of headaches for all concerned, not the least being Buffy not being able to use, "You're evil" as her excuse any longer.

But my favorite wank is, he didn't know he was getting a soul consciously. So he was too vague with his request, and the "what she deserved" may have meant one thing to him, but that demon wasn't interested in Spike's subjective meaning. He gave Spike a soul because, objectively, that was what Buffy deserved.

Now that conflicts with Spike's speech about going off to get his spark from earlier this season, but not so much. Because I am a master wanker. You see, subconsciously that part of Spike that sired and killed his momma, and didn't eat Willow; that part of him is what made Spike say his request in such a vague manner. And only later, once he had the soul, was he able to understand that.

Two wanks, no waiting.

(Edited to express my pure pleasure at my first numberslutting being the answer to life, the universe and everything)

Oh, and the two things I liked in End of Days -- the Anya/Andrew scene (OK, mostly for "Wheelchair fight!") and the Faith/Buffy scene.