See, I could accept this if they'd had Spike see Halfrek and think she was Cecily, but they did it the other way around, which seems like it should have lead to something more.

Like Giles not touching things.

Yeah, the, umm... shout outs sort of sucked ass.

HA!

X-postage!

Worst. Shout-out. Ever.

Which one the Giles one or the Halfrek/Cecily one?

And as much as I love Ultimate Drew - what the hell was that lame shout out he gave? a telephone repairman or something. C'mon.

Cecily/Halfrek.

The Giles-not-touching-things wasn't a shout-out, it was just lame.

Cecily/Halfrek.

This gave me the freakiest porny image. Until I realized that Cecily would totally never do Halfrek. She is beneath her. Wait. That means she is beneath herself. Damn. Freaky porny image again.

Mind scrub needed.

Yeah, the, umm... shout outs sort of sucked ass.

Back in my day, the shout outs meant something. Why, we had the Polgara demon. Then these young whipper snappers come in and gum up the works with their bad math skillz.

On Cecily and Halfrek-I just thought that was a meta joke for Buffy fans because they used the same actress.

Wanking aside, I believe this has been confirmed.

Yes, I think it was Marti, but whomever it was, I distinctly remember the comment. They liked the actress, wanted to use her as Halfrek, and so put in her, "William?" -- as a nod to the fans.

They didn't realize so many fans would take the nod as a finger. I just thought it was fun. It could have been much more interesting though.

Okay, okay, so it meant nothing, it was just an inside joke...well I love those anyway as long as they're clever...personally I thought the "Giles not touching anything" bit would have been clever had they just done it for, like, one episode, but instead they dragged it out too long, to the point where it was absurd that no one would have seen him touching anything unless he was the First. I did like the bit w/ the Bringer's shoes squeaking however...a reminder of how the First was impressive in its' omniscience, but had a lot of incompetent help.

One note though: I think that if Halfrek had "daddy issues", they should have made her turn out to be Cecily...it makes sense that a young woman from the Victorian era would have father issues...Victorians not really known for their kindness and sensitivity towards women and children...why oh why did they screw up what could have been an interesting story w/ a reference to the Crimean War? Oh well...

What about the time where people read way too much about what Doc said to Spike, that he thought he was the guy downtown or something. I read so many theories that he was cloned or that there was a Spike bot or a Spike double somewhere.