Actually that wouldn't require too much of a wank. Allow me.

Cecilly was sitting alone wasn't she, at the gathering in FFL? I think part of her embarassment at the poem and rejection of William could have been that she was rejected herself for being underclass. She's kind of in this situation where she's maybe in love with someone above her (perhaps the man who read the poem) and being liked by William makes her feel like she's a loser, so she's just as cruel to be one of the "in crowd." Perhaps her status is the fault of her parents (They didn't make enough money/behave the right way/send her to the right charm school) and so she blames them for her lot in life-becomes vengance demon.

If Halfrek was getting her vengeance on in the Crimean War (1854-56, thank you, Google), she'd have already been a demon in 1880.

But hey, don't let that stop anyone wanking.

Hrm. Ok. Got nothing. Though I think my wank can be adapted.

Has anyone seen this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/buffy/ecomics/index.shtml

Online e-comic written by Petrie. Only the first part seems to be up yet.

Cool. I like Buffy comics that don't require the spending of money.

ETA: ...and I keep misreading the name of the site as 'Buffy Economics".

Took me a little while to figure out when exactly it was set, though.

I do think you're right though that Cecily's cruelty had as much to do with her audience as it did with whatever her real feelings about him were. He's inappropriately dressed, awkward, and the in-crowd is already laughing at him So then he goes and puts her on the spot, complete with bad poetry, and coming up with the cruelest put-down she can manage is her line of defense.

I think Cecily means it when she says William is beneath her -- socially beneath her, in terms of class, and socially beneath her in terms of Victorian polish -- charm, wit, social flair, manners. He's obviously educated and sensitive but a poor catch; not desperately poor financially or he wouldn't be at such a gathering, but poor enough so that it wasn't enough to outweigh his other shortcomings.

I think they put them in old clothes and an old house and gave no thought whatsoever to the status implications of either.

I'm with this utterly. I'm sure ME doesn't have a Victorian social historian on tap to fine tune the props.

And Cecily strikes me as being a popular gal -- when we first see her, she floats down the stairs and is enveloped in a cloud of sycophants, IIRC. How she halfreked, well, one fanfic suggested William's attentions threw off her favoured suitor.

I'm sure ME doesn't have a Victorian social historian on tap to fine tune the props.

Nah, that's what we're for, to postulate an entire family history from the placement of a single prop. Still, they could have made it a cozy little Victorian parlor; instead, they gave a space that seems quite large. Sure, easier to maneuver a camera, but fun to speculate on.

I just found a great bit of continuity that I didn't notice before. Watching Doppelgangland -- great for many reasons, not just the scene where Devon complains to Oz that they need a roadie, and Oz replies that they only know three chords, and proper professional bands sometimes know six or even seven totally different chords.

Anyway when vamp!Willow visits the Bronze the second time, she moves in on an innocent girl called Sandy. Now it is exactly the same Sandy who Riley flirts with, lets bite him and stakes in season 5. Did everyone else notice this, or am I just really slow?

Now it is exactly the same Sandy who Riley flirts with, lets bite him and stakes in season 5. Did everyone else notice this, or am I just really slow?

Kassto -- haven't seen that ep but will look for it when I do. Lurrrve the continuity, I does...

I like to think that Cecily ended up as Halfrek b/c one of the clods who abused William at that party got with her and then cheated on her...I probably like to think this b/c more than once I've been "William" to a girl's "Cecily"; I love the idea of the guy who she thought was Mr. Right cheating on her and her becoming a demon while the dorky guy she could've had becomes a badass vampire who saves the world...that's all from the "overidentifying rants" for now...oh, and Amanda rules! Why'd they kill her instead of annoying Rona and bland Vi...well, we didn't get total confirmation that she was dead.