S7 was totally stoopid. Now I'm all annoyed.

What can I say, Sean... I like to share the vexation.

I'd almost forgotten about that. We should do that for the whole damn final season. And the previous one.

Fuck. We'd do it, too. We'll be that bored come the new tv season.

Especially the shortcomings and SiT's.

I'm sure you're not stupid, Gleebo, and no one is implying that. But, may I ask, what do you see as the shortcomings, and why do you love them?

I must be stupid because I loved Season 7.

Eh. You may just be more forgiving than Elena or I.

Or it could be dangerous head radiation. I think it's the radiation.

t puts on tinfoil deflector beanie and backs slowly away from Gleebo

You may just be more forgiving than Elena or I.

By default Gleebo would be more forgiving than I, because I am the single most unforgiving person I know.

I fall somewhere between Elena/Sean and Gleebo. I agree that there were a lot of problems with S7, and a lot of missed opportunities, but I also remember how much I liked the first part of the season, some of the shows in the middle, and the finale.

Even with all my ranting - I have lots of love for Season 7.

But then again, I am one of those people that has lots and lots of love for Season 6.

I am also one of those people that tend not to be too critical of anything that I am all obsessed and in love with even when they have big and obvious flaws: stoopid boys I have crushes on, ME shows and computer companies named Apple come to mind.

Yeah, well... I suppose I should put in my own disclaimer that, even with my complete and utter annoyance at the suck I thought was S7, I still would watch S7 reruns over new episodes of most other TV shows. And be happy about it.

The worst of Buffy is still better than most other's bests.

I would gladly join in on a S7 rewrite. It went horribly off the tracks after a very strong start and even the strong finale couldn't make up for all the dropped plot threads, bad characterization, frelling boring speeches. But y'all keep yer grubby mitts off S6.

My main focus on a rewrite would be making Giles recognisable and making Xander be there.

Oh, and my unforgiving nature is not for BtVS, it's just in general.

Shortcomings in S7 in my book were the lack of core character interaction that should have been heavy in the final season. Not enough Giles interacting with the group. He was an outsider. If this was not the last season, the "is Giles dead or alive" debate would have been more interesting. Knowing that it was he should have been decisively one or the other, leaving us in limbo and wondering was a great joke but bad timing.

Another shortcoming was the stretch of episodes that took place over what seemed like a 24'esque long day. I know this has happened before in the Buffyverse but it just seemed to go nowhere at times. I did not like the Ubervamp storyline, especially seeing how easy they were to off once an scythe was made available and SiT's were given powers. Buffy got her ass kicked by one of them and she has been slaying for 7 plus years. I have a hard time believing(and no matter how cool the final battle was) that just out of the oven Slayers could off an army of them and only lose a few in the process.

While I did actually like the episode "The Killer in Me" because I kind of was into the Kennedy/Willow thing, I did not think the Amy re-entrance in the show was very well done. I think that having her for just one episode was kind of clunky.

I think S7 started out VERY strong up until the action hit a snail like pace and speeches were given like they were going out of style. Sure this is the end of the world, but we didn't get 4 paragraph long speeches for any of those.

I think that even though some of those episodes were weak pace wise they had light moments to bring them up a bit. The only episode I can say that I didn't really like was "Get it Done" and maybe "Showtime". GiD just took forever to accomplish something that really disappointed me in terms of the slayer mythos. "Showtime" could have been a whole lot better.

I dont really get caught up in disliking a certain ship, like W/K or Spuffy, or even certain characters. I just take the relationships at face value and move on to the storyline at hand and do not let one aspect ruin my watching experience.

Although one character I did not like was Principle McBoring. His storyline was good with his mother being the Slayer Spike had killed, but he was built up for being much more than that it seemed. All the creepy stuff that they had him seemingly being around or part of was fluff it seems. It also seems like him being the son of a slayer was written in later in the game to give him more of a reason to be there and cause tension.