It really had nothing to do with Kittens, at all.
It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.
Buffy ,'Get It Done'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Allyson - Jul 08, 2003 3:27:42 pm PDT #3225 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Jessica - Jul 08, 2003 3:28:15 pm PDT #3226 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
(I still think it's all bullshit, and there was never a Tara in S7 for AB to turn down.)
Sean K - Jul 08, 2003 3:31:29 pm PDT #3227 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
It really had nothing to do with Kittens, at all.
I don't know if this was to me or CaBil, but my bad words for the Kittens have nothing to do with CaBil's post. I just don't like them.
(I still think it's all bullshit, and there was never a Tara in S7 for AB to turn down.)
I agree with Jess.
Allyson - Jul 08, 2003 3:38:44 pm PDT #3228 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Jessica, if a talking cantaloupe had been planned as the Big Bad, but the cantaloupe's negotiations fell apart, I'd believe it. If they told me that the reason that Giles couldn't touch stuff was because the snowcone conjugated a bean dip, I'd have to buy it. Why? Because the season was tossed together with all the cohesion of baby snot.
See, it's because Buffy was ressurected that the Eye of Botox legume fish burlap sack. Look! Over there! 48 girls in stupid hats beating up ubervamps that could not be killed 16 eps ago!
mutter mutter
tina f. - Jul 08, 2003 3:51:35 pm PDT #3229 of 10001
Because the season was tossed together with all the cohesion of baby snot.
Less actually. (Messy!Co-worker has baby with cold - that shit's purty sticky.)
And yet, I am still mad about not watching a re-run right now. Also mad at still being at work right now.
Jessica - Jul 08, 2003 3:55:44 pm PDT #3230 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Oh, ITA, Allyson, but this specifically sounds too much like the Wild at Heart commentary for me to take it even a little bit seriously.
Shanshu - Jul 08, 2003 5:22:54 pm PDT #3231 of 10001
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be
lyrically, Talib Kweli.
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did five mill' - I ain't been rhymin like Common since (Jay-Z)
I agree that it sounds like bullshit. According to interviews with Amber, she turned down CWDP because she didn't want Tara to come back as the First. This Joss interview was the first I'd heard of a planned actual Willow/Tara reunion. If that had been the proposed storyline, it seems like Amber would have jumped at it.
Somebody (Amber or Joss) is full of shit, and the fact that there is a shooting script of CWDP that has Tara in it seems to support Amber's story.
§ ita § - Jul 08, 2003 6:14:26 pm PDT #3232 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If Joss made even a bit of sense ... but he doesn't. It didn't even read like he was trying. Which, as Allyson might contend, fits in with S7. Or as I might, fits in with the idea that ASH films with no pants on.
Maysa - Jul 08, 2003 6:19:00 pm PDT #3233 of 10001
If Tara had come back as a zombie, and eaten Kennedy's brains, I would have cheered.
Not enough wrod in the world.
I really think AB did the responsible thing in turning down appearing in S7. It was such a crappy misguided year, they would have utterly ruined squandered Tara anyway.
Oh, and I can't believe that Joss Whedon thought that the stupid "I may be dead, I may be evil, but either way I'm poorly written: The Rupert Giles Story" was amusing. Forget the whole part about it being a cheap trick, a lame stunt, and insulting to the audience. It just wasn't funny. I thought this man was supposed to know comedy.
t /bitter
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 08, 2003 8:01:27 pm PDT #3234 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I actually thought the not-touching thing was neat and anticipation-making back when I was first spoiled for it. Of course, at that point I assumed there would be a payoff of some sort.
Joss and other writers have talked about having so much to fit into this season that it didn't all work, but to me there were about 10 episodes that ran together with not much happening except for boring speeches to crowds of anonymous extras. Oh, and Andrew babbling on interminably, musn't forget that.
I think they would have been better served to do the first 2/3 of the season as monster-of-the week stories like "Same Time, Same Place" with the hunted potentials subplot on the back burner, and then kick the arc into high gear around eps 15/16 with "Conversations with Dead People" and the firebombing of Watcher Central.