The next time you decide to stab me in the back... have the guts to do it to my face.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Trudy Booth - Jun 20, 2003 5:57:56 am PDT #2887 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

AliceZunN8a4EVAH!!!!!!1!!!


Lyra Jane - Jun 20, 2003 6:16:06 am PDT #2888 of 10001
Up with the sun

I was shocked to see that season one got the most votes for least favorite season?!

Proabbly because people don't really remember it, so it's easy to put it there. I know that's why I did it.

And I think Giles and Jenny were grown-ups, with a grown-up relationship -- which yes, would have included The Sex at some point. But it rang false to me that Xander never slept with Cordy, given how physical their relationship was and that Cordy dated a LOT of guys and apparently wasn't a virgin before "Expecting." So I'm probably insane anyhow.

and Tom Lenk is a cutie.


Jess M. - Jun 20, 2003 7:25:01 am PDT #2889 of 10001
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse

But they were in high school. A lot of high schoolers do major "heavy petting" but don't go all the way. It seemed reasonable to me.


Susan W. - Jun 20, 2003 7:33:00 am PDT #2890 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Proabbly because people don't really remember it, so it's easy to put it there. I know that's why I did it.

I put S6 in last, because I still hate the direction it took, but I think the reason S1 ended up there overall instead of, say, S6 or S7 is that the later seasons have vocal defenders to balance it out, while I've never heard of anyone who thinks S1 is the Best Evah.

(IIRC, I voted S2, S3, S4, S5, S7, S1, S6. S7 jumped ahead of S1 by going out with a bang.)


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2003 7:37:08 am PDT #2891 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And I think Giles and Jenny were grown-ups, with a grown-up relationship -- which yes, would have included The Sex at some point

I very much got the impression they were rounding in on that. And I don't think the grown-up and The Sex are mutually dependent.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 20, 2003 7:41:51 am PDT #2892 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But they were in high school. A lot of high schoolers do major "heavy petting" but don't go all the way. It seemed reasonable to me.

It wouldn't surprise me if Xander was doing things with the promises of future reward(s) that, if they were delivered upon, were delivered infrequently. Given that it's Queen C we're talking about.


Jessica - Jun 20, 2003 7:45:17 am PDT #2893 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've never heard of anyone who thinks S1 is the Best Evah.

I think Matt the Bruins Fan is in this camp.


Susan W. - Jun 20, 2003 7:46:08 am PDT #2894 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Yeah, I realized after posting that I probably shouldn't have said "never." Because there's always a counterexample. You'd think I'd learned that after almost four years of Married Arguments, if nothing else...


DCJensen - Jun 20, 2003 7:51:02 am PDT #2895 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

And I think Giles and Jenny were grown-ups, with a grown-up relationship -- which yes, would have included The Sex at some point

I very much got the impression they were rounding in on that. And I don't think the grown-up and The Sex are mutually dependent.

Their kind of adult relationship would have included The Sex.

ETA: I ment that in the Rupert/Jenny one, the sex was going to be part of the adult relationship.


Jessica - Jun 20, 2003 7:52:17 am PDT #2896 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Their kind of adult relationship would have included The Sex.

At some point, yes. But I don't think they were there yet before she died.