Mal: Ready? Zoe: Always.

'Serenity'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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DavidS - May 26, 2003 8:19:26 pm PDT #2411 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The more I watch (or think about) the finale, the more amazed I am at how much Joss pulled together at the end.

Yep. So many nuances, and grace notes and callbacks and allusions and all in character and dramatically rich and emotional.

For some reason, one of the things that moves me the most was how much Vi changed upon getting her Slayer power. She sold me on both mousy-in-the-background and the kick-ass Nurse!Vi take-charge attitude.

Concur. It was genuinely thrilling. I guess we should learn the actress' name.


Anne W. - May 26, 2003 8:20:33 pm PDT #2412 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Wrod, sj. Also, in a way, the cuddles-only Spike and Buffy scenes are like a statement to the 'shippers that there's much more to intimacy than the sex. I felt that Buffy and Spike were closer to each other during their not-sex scenes than in anything during S6.

That said, I like to think that they went for the tender, Sarah-MacLachlan sex before cutting to the schoolbus scene.


sj - May 26, 2003 8:22:11 pm PDT #2413 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

That said, I like to think that they went for the tender, Sarah-MacLachlan sex before cutting to the schoolbus scene.

Me too.


HoyaSaxa - May 26, 2003 9:27:58 pm PDT #2414 of 10001
Diablo Robotico Up.

"As can the entire series. How else to explain that BTVS was a favorite of The Nation AND The National Review; The American Prospect AND The Weekly Standard."

Everybody walks away happy, I suppose. I've been tinkering with the idea of Buffy as television's only libertarian heroine, but it requires an involved explanation and I just don't have the time to put pen to paper on that. But I'm thinking about it.


victor infante - May 26, 2003 9:34:03 pm PDT #2415 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Heh. Awhile back, I interviewed David Nolan, who founded the Libertarian Party. He's a very conservative politics and economic wonk. And a rabid Buffy fan.

I also have it on good authority that there's a whole mess of Buffy fans in the State Department. In fact, many of them (including a friend of mine and Thessaly's) went en masse to see James Marsters play outside D.C.


Trudy Booth - May 26, 2003 9:39:13 pm PDT #2416 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Maybe Joss should run for president...


victor infante - May 26, 2003 9:40:43 pm PDT #2417 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Maybe Joss should run for president...

The theory of maximum pain? Works well cinematically. In real life? Not so good...

Ah, Hell. Who am I kidding. I'd vote for him.


Trudy Booth - May 26, 2003 9:47:28 pm PDT #2418 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'd move to Chicago and vote for him twice.


Maysa - May 26, 2003 10:17:39 pm PDT #2419 of 10001

Buffy re-enters the basement and they face each other across the room. We flash to the next shot, and it's morning, and we're looking at the school bus. The evil genius found a way to have his cake and eat it, too.

You know when I first watched this scene it seemed clear to me that that was Buffy coming down to get Spike right before they left for the school. I'll have to watch it again, but weren't the lighting and Buffy's clothes implying that it was the morning of the big day? It seemed like the "meaningful glance before we go into battle" shot.


brenda m - May 26, 2003 10:25:42 pm PDT #2420 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. It seemed like night to me.

But now I'm wondering, how did Spike get to the school? Was he on the bus, covered in blankets (or tucked in someone's backpack - he's quite compact, you know.) Or did he do the sewer tunnel thing and just popped up in the hallway? I can't really remember.