Mal: Take your people and go. Captain: You would have done the same. Mal: We can already see I haven't.

'Out Of Gas'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Elena - May 24, 2003 12:38:09 am PDT #2193 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

Yeah, and not in the script, nor on the screen.

Typos! Poor enunciation!


Cindy - May 24, 2003 12:38:41 am PDT #2194 of 10001
Nobody

Errors. Errors in new places!


DCJensen - May 24, 2003 1:01:05 am PDT #2195 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Is Xander there?

And he has both eyes, and hasn't been brain sucked by Andrew.

Being a Buffista I was surprised when there wasn't an immediate hoyay response of "brain?" Followed by a lot of snerks.

Not sure if this is good or bad.


bitterchick - May 24, 2003 1:11:44 am PDT #2196 of 10001

I was surprised when there wasn't an immediate hoyay response of "brain?"

Hey man. There was plenty of hoyay in there already. I mean, Xander just loves his...brain. </Timberlake, NERD>


ted r - May 24, 2003 9:32:37 am PDT #2197 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

I wanna know where the ocean went. There were docks, damnit

Oh that's easy-the docks aren't actually in Sunnydale, but a few miles outside town (just out of sight of the final shot). Along with the major airport.

I think the timestamp (along with the title) was a style-choice and nothing more (well, maybe also a nod to 24).

2) Joyce-to-Dawn: When the going got rough, Buffy sent Dawn away with Xander (Joyce's warning caused Dawn to be prepared with the stun gun - poor puppy's been carrying that thing around for months. You should have seen the time she zapped herself in math class. Talk about humiliating.)

The stun gun was simply in the car along with the crossbow and Glory knows what else. As to what "Joyce" meant-that depends in part on whether that was FE Joyce or real Joyce, which was left open (I always thought it was FE Joyce myself).

3>) Eye-of-Botox:

This one really isn't an issue that requires any fanwanking-that scene was there because they needed an explanation as to why the FE was doing this NOW rather than 10 or 100 or 1000 years ago, That's what that scene was for, and that's all it was for.


§ ita § - May 24, 2003 9:37:25 am PDT #2198 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My problem with the eye of Botox is that it merely told us why it was happening now, when the more important thing should have been to tell them. I want that information to have been important to the characters. They're more important than I am.

I do agree with you on the stun gun thing -- they were going through weapons in the car.


scrappy - May 24, 2003 9:47:14 am PDT #2199 of 10001
Nobody

Joyce worked fine for me. She was totally the FE. And what she told Dawn gave us insight into what Dawn feared--being not a scoob and not trusted. And also set up Dawn not trusting Buffy, since she didn't tell her what Joyce said, It also meant that when push came to shove, Dawn chose the Scoobs over Buffy.

I'm guessing the Eye was there to set up something about the Slayer succession for the Faith spin-off. When that went bye-bye they had enough work to do trying to change the other stuff that they just left it alone. Thus driving those of you of a nit-picking propensity insane.


Frankenbuddha - May 24, 2003 10:05:58 am PDT #2200 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

See, I thought the Joyce haunting was too physical for the FE.

I seriously think, either it was something that got dropped, or it referred to Buffy trying to get Dawn out of the way before the final battle. Why Joyce would go to such efforts for that - err. That's where it kinda falls down. I hate the idea that it was just a dropped thread, though, rather than a botched one (see pod-Giles set up as possible FE).


Allyson - May 24, 2003 10:14:27 am PDT #2201 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

(I always thought it was FE Joyce myself).

The First couldn't manipulate surroundings at all, let alone trash the Summer's residence.


scrappy - May 24, 2003 10:19:50 am PDT #2202 of 10001
Nobody

Did we see Joyce trash things, though? Didn't that happen offscreen with lots of wind and stuff? Or am I on monkey crack?