Man, just ascend already.

Willow ,'Chosen'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Narrator - May 22, 2003 6:01:28 pm PDT #2048 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Fine, revise away. Kennedy should have been downstairs with the rest of the cannon fodder, anyway. (Also, that would be a nice connection to the Season 4 battle that defeated Adam.)


Cindy - May 22, 2003 6:04:20 pm PDT #2049 of 10001
Nobody

You do it, Narrator. I already have a book sized outline for mine. It's scary (although I have half of the stuff we've talked as reason for writing - I'm not revising the past in it, though).

Apropos of nothing, Four Star Mary's, Pain is still a good song.


Anne W. - May 22, 2003 6:21:55 pm PDT #2050 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

And they could have resolved it by Dawn insisting that the amulet was for her – that she has a soul but isn’t (entirely) human. Then Buffy would have had to choose between Dawn and Spike. And she could then not choose Dawn.

This would have rocked.


Anne W. - May 22, 2003 6:23:52 pm PDT #2051 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Eggs and bacon:

Cindy, your tagline ("Close your eyes.") reminded me of something. At the end of S2, doesn't Buffy tell Angel to do exactly that before she skewers him and sends him on his way to Hell?

Spike, on the other hand, goes out with the following line: "I want to see how it ends."

Neat contrast.


Laura - May 22, 2003 6:37:50 pm PDT #2052 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Signed, Is Still Sure Willow's Bi

She isn't? Color me surprised.


Julie - May 22, 2003 6:44:16 pm PDT #2053 of 10001

Makes thousands.

sniff.

Other than that, I gots nothing.


HoyaSaxa - May 22, 2003 9:29:12 pm PDT #2054 of 10001
Diablo Robotico Up.

My fav seasons: 2, 1, 3, 6, 7, 5, 4.

S2 was a great test of the Slayer, especially because she committed two terrible errors at critical points -- the first, of commission (sex with Angel) and the second of omission (refusing to kill Angelus when she had the chance in the mall).

Plus, as Whedon had more episodes to expand on, the Scoobies solidified themselves as a unit. S1 was too short for the kind of interactions we saw in S2.

As I am big into the themes of redemption, S2 was about first the folly, then the redemption of the Slayer. The act of contrition was sending Angel to the hell dimension.

Oh, one other thing I was going to ask. At exactly 8:30 EST Tuesday night, halfway through the finale -- Buffy and Spike come face to face, from a distance and then there's a quick fadeout. What do you guys think happened "off-camera?"


DCJensen - May 22, 2003 10:10:58 pm PDT #2055 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The name of the girl playing the potential Slayer at bat is "Demetra Raven" in the credits.

Google search for her


Kate P. - May 22, 2003 10:16:56 pm PDT #2056 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

And I feel like I always do whenever I see or read a really good story with a Final Epic Battle--just a teensy bit disappointed I don't live in a world where you can hand me a sword and point me toward the evil, but at the same time kinda reinspired for what I believe to be my own calling, such as it is. Like I want to tell the best stories I can, and love my husband with my whole heart, and be the best friend I know how to be, and make my voice heard on issues that matter to me, because that's my fight to make the world a better place, and to be who I was meant to be. My power may be small, but it's still a better world if I use it, than if I let it waste because it's not big enough to fix everything I see broken.

Susan, will you marry me?

Whoever it was who said women in America are whitefonted today, it's nauseating and true and the more we can kick out the fucking jams, the better I'm going to like it.

Deb, will you marry me?

The moment where Anya steeled herself was much like where Merry and Pippin leapt out to distract the Uruk Hai from Frodo -- it made me tear up because they're not supposed to fight, dammit! But they do get it, now, something bigger than self-preservation -- world preservation, and even though they're the least well equipped, pitifully so, they do it.

Because you can be a hero without the power.

The "stupid" thing Anya did? Was go against her every self-description, and fight for people she didn't even love. For people she didn't even know. Yeah, by her books, it was stupid. A marvellous stupid thing.

ita, will you quit making me cry?

Yeah, I got nothin' to add, just that I'm loving this conversation. Thanks, Buffistas, for making a great show even better for me.


billytea - May 22, 2003 10:22:34 pm PDT #2057 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Let dead stay dead and evil stay evil for once.

So now Joss is listing Days of our Lives among his influences?

My power may be small, but it's still a better world if I use it, than if I let it waste because it's not big enough to fix everything I see broken.

There's a song, called Seven Sisters (hi Ple) which includes the line "We cannot do great things, but only small things with great love". I like that song. (And, for that matter, Jewel's Hands.)