Inara ,'Serenity'
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What does using mean to you, Wenda? I see a situation in which two consenting adults get more out of it than if they hadn't, come out with less pain (both, not just the one with the "upper hand") as not using.
Someone has to suffer for me to see it as using. Spike didn't. Buffy didn't. Who lost?
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Given that Angel suggested Buffy not use it, I think there was danger attached. And he seemed pretty resigned when he took it, not just when it kicked in.
They didn't know that that amulet had the potential of killing the guy wearing it, did they?
Not as such, but as Angel said, they really didn't know what it could do. Also, even if Spike wasn't physically able to leave, his attitude throughout the whole thing showed that he would have made that choice even with full foreknowledge of what would happen.
I'm wondering if the "cleansing" did something to (soulless) vampires everywhere, not just the UberVamps. We'll have to wait and see.
OK, I just got a plot bunny for a story about the softball slayer girl. Please restrain me before I commit cheesey bad baseball fic.
Love Joy Press. She's Simon Reynolds' wife, and a lovely woman (I went out to dinner with them yonks ago. She's also the best feminist rock critic around.
Here's hoping Annika Sorenstam got some Slayer in her.
I don't think it's morally reprehenisble to snuggle with someone you know doesn'tlove you back, or you have the sneaking suspcion doesn't love you back.
Spike knew that Buffy didn't feel the same way about him and he did what he did willingly.
I've been in Spike's position, where there was someone I really cared about, but who I knew didn't love me, and I took cuddled with them when I had the chance because that's what I wanted to do.
Buffy never made any promises to Spike about her feelings, Spike has always known that he has stronger feelings for Buffy than she has for him. He's known this from the very beginning---before this season in fact.
I see a situation in which two consenting adults get more out of it than if they hadn't, come out with less pain (both, not just the one with the "upper hand") as not using.
I have to agree with ita here. There are waaaaaaay more choices in a relationship between two people than just a) using, and b) pure, unadulterated, True Love.