Zoe ,'Bushwhacked'
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
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I'm just saying that a small portion of the board has gotten into the proposing and making rules thing. And the people who aren't don't seem to vote.
But this vote had about 95 people voting, didn't it? That's about 12% of registered users, and I'd guess about 45% of active users. (That second number is a total guess.) I'd say there were no more than about 10 people actively discussing the proposal in the voting thread.
t edited to fix some numbers
A mandate would indicate overwhelming popular support for a proposal.
No, a mandate is a dictated course of action. There's no reason you can't have a mandate from just one person.
Well, it matters, it just has little to do with how the decisions are made.
Trudy, your hypotheses on people who don't speak up are just as wild as mine. Maybe everyone who cares voted. Who knows?
a small portion of the board has gotten into the proposing and making rules thing. And the people who aren't don't seem to vote.
Based on what? We don't know who voted. We only know who discussed. We can surmise, but it's kinda empty. Maybe people who hate proposals and rule making voted, because the outcome was more important to them than their hatred of the method.
If you got the seconds first, then your proposal goes live first, I think.
Which makes it impossible to vote between two constructive alternatives ("10" or "20").
From what I gather, unless the people in the discussion can persuade the person making the proposal they have no effect on what goes on the ballot.
From what I gather, unless the people in the discussion can persuade the person making the proposal they have no effect on what goes on the ballot.
Yes.
Which makes it impossible to vote between two constructive alternatives ("10" or "20").
No. Not if the proposer wants to offer those alternatives. And that's your definition of constructive, and does not hold true for everyone.
No, a mandate is a dictated course of action. There's no reason you can't have a mandate from just one person.
We're using different definitions for "mandate". I'll quit using it.
So what does it take to propose something? Can I propose whatever I want, word it however I want and put it to a vote 48 hours later?
So what does it take to propose something? Can I propose whatever I want, word it however I want and put it to a vote 48 hours later?
You'd need people to second it, and it would be voted on several days later.
How many people?
How many people?
Four, I believe. I think that's what that vote decided.
Voting results to date:
Got it now.
I guess my concern is about how the phrasing of a ballot effects the outcome and that one person determines the phrasing.
For instance, if the matter just voted on had been worded:
Any ten posters can (upon stating publically within 24 hours of each other) for any reason officially censure (and ultimately ban) another poster.
The votes may well have lined up differently.
So, come June 29th if I'm still concerned about how ballots are written I can propose something.