Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'
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I did bring it up. I said that Shawn's post seemed condescending, and asked if that was the intent.
She not only replied 'yes', but then asserted it was intentional.
People are allowed to be condescending. It's rude, but it's not a warnable offense, in my opinion. She didn't continue to bait you, or call you names, or do anything else objectionable. She was annoyed with you and said so.
Well, anything's warnable if you can get ten people to agree, though.
Oh, for sure. I was giving my personal opinion.
I can guarantee, though, that if some group of 10 did start trying to ban people over bullshit, ALL HELL would break loose, and shit would change right quick.
Whoa, lots of new posts.
Serial to suggest. Rafmun, if you're asking for a warning to Shawn, go ahead and ask it.
I strongly recommend against it. IMO, warnings are for people who persist in engaging in offensive behavior. What Shawn said, although uncalled for, was not a warnable offense. We can't all walk on eggshells all the time, and sometimes things will get to us. We're human, and so are our posts.
That's not to say you can't ask for the warning, but I'll certainly not back you up, and I doubt many people, if any, will. Also, I once tried to get Allyson warned for a snippy comment and in retrospect it was a huge, huge mistake. I'm glad it didn't pass.
I've been lurking for 6 weeks on general boards. What is the recommended length of time for lurking?
Okay, now I am confused. In your first post, way back when, you said
It is also offered from the perspective of an outsider who has lurked for a fairly long time now, and who felt both piled upon and marginalized with his first offer of perspective in this thread - so it is unavoidably influenced by that experience
and IIRC, proceeded to base a lot of your observations on your knowledge and familiarity of the board.
Which is it?
I have not seen anything said to you that I feel calls for a warning, no matter to whom it was said.
I sort of answered this in my previous post, but it's my understanding that first you just ask, in-thread, or maybe via e-mail, the person to cool it because what they said was pushing it.
Okay - I will certainly accept the council offered. It will give me the oportunity to learn about how the system works.
As such, rather than requesting a formal warning, I will try to resolve the issue 'in thread'. Therefore I request that Shawn stop being snotty to me amd to acknowledge that it is not the 'way of this board' to intentionally be mean toward anyone, as per Wolfram's 'reason not to be' above.
(msbelle - is that a reasonable compromise position for me to take?)
Serial to suggest. Rafmun, if you're asking for a warning to Shawn, go ahead and ask it.
I strongly recommend against it.
Strongly agree with Wolfram. We don't bring up warnings lightly. And for something that slight, it would surely be seen as petty to do so.
People snipe at each other from time to time. That's not what the warnings are for.
Just so we're clear, I don't think it's a good idea either.
But I prefer it to the maneuvering I'm seeing (even while I'm in agreement that Shawn's answer was a bit snotty).
Therefore I request that Shawn stop being snotty to me amd to acknowledge that it is not the 'way of this board' to intentionally be mean toward anyone, as per Wolfram's 'reason not to be' above.
See, to me that whole "acknowledge that is is not the way of the board" is bullshit. You want to twist an apology out of her by fucking with parliamentary procedures? That is a way bigger breach of board culture than anything Shawn said.
Rafmun, That's fine, but this part
and to acknowledge that it is not the 'way of this board' to intentionally be mean toward anyone
is like asking for an apology. We've discussed that at numerous times. You can ask for it, just don't hold your breath. I feel pretty certain that the board is not going to start enforcing apologies.
Well, you can't REQUESt that Shawn stop being anything, as you are not the boss of her. You can say that you are upset by her snottiness and you would like her to stop it and see how she responds.