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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Rafmun - Apr 01, 2004 12:37:22 pm PST #8868 of 10005
I'm made of felt and my....hey, who's hand is that?

I have not seen anything said to you that I feel calls for a warning, no matter to whom it was said.

I sort of answered this in my previous post, but it's my understanding that first you just ask, in-thread, or maybe via e-mail, the person to cool it because what they said was pushing it.

Okay - I will certainly accept the council offered. It will give me the oportunity to learn about how the system works.

As such, rather than requesting a formal warning, I will try to resolve the issue 'in thread'. Therefore I request that Shawn stop being snotty to me amd to acknowledge that it is not the 'way of this board' to intentionally be mean toward anyone, as per Wolfram's 'reason not to be' above.

(msbelle - is that a reasonable compromise position for me to take?)


DavidS - Apr 01, 2004 12:38:53 pm PST #8869 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Serial to suggest. Rafmun, if you're asking for a warning to Shawn, go ahead and ask it.

I strongly recommend against it.

Strongly agree with Wolfram. We don't bring up warnings lightly. And for something that slight, it would surely be seen as petty to do so.

People snipe at each other from time to time. That's not what the warnings are for.


Astarte - Apr 01, 2004 12:39:39 pm PST #8870 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Just so we're clear, I don't think it's a good idea either.

But I prefer it to the maneuvering I'm seeing (even while I'm in agreement that Shawn's answer was a bit snotty).


DavidS - Apr 01, 2004 12:40:35 pm PST #8871 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Therefore I request that Shawn stop being snotty to me amd to acknowledge that it is not the 'way of this board' to intentionally be mean toward anyone, as per Wolfram's 'reason not to be' above.

See, to me that whole "acknowledge that is is not the way of the board" is bullshit. You want to twist an apology out of her by fucking with parliamentary procedures? That is a way bigger breach of board culture than anything Shawn said.


msbelle - Apr 01, 2004 12:40:40 pm PST #8872 of 10005
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Rafmun, That's fine, but this part

and to acknowledge that it is not the 'way of this board' to intentionally be mean toward anyone

is like asking for an apology. We've discussed that at numerous times. You can ask for it, just don't hold your breath. I feel pretty certain that the board is not going to start enforcing apologies.


Scrappy - Apr 01, 2004 12:41:14 pm PST #8873 of 10005
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Well, you can't REQUESt that Shawn stop being anything, as you are not the boss of her. You can say that you are upset by her snottiness and you would like her to stop it and see how she responds.


JenP - Apr 01, 2004 12:41:20 pm PST #8874 of 10005

Is the warning procedure ... and what it is meant to be used for ... part of Nutty's Cheesebutt thingie (that's weird to write) along with proposal and voting procedure?


Dana - Apr 01, 2004 12:41:34 pm PST #8875 of 10005
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Therefore I request that Shawn stop being snotty to me amd to acknowledge that it is not the 'way of this board' to intentionally be mean toward anyone, as per Wolfram's 'reason not to be' above.

Charity begins at home.

I've yet to see you apologize to the numerous people who took issue with your tone over the past two days. Defend your tone, yes. Apologize, no. Frankly, I don't care if you apologize, but don't go after Shawn for the same thing.

(And if I'm wrong, as is always a possiblity, someone please feel free to Nilly my head off.)


Astarte - Apr 01, 2004 12:44:35 pm PST #8876 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Points at Dana's post and nods.

Me,too.


aurelia - Apr 01, 2004 12:45:03 pm PST #8877 of 10005
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Okay. And for something completely different...

Where do the local 'istas lists live? Is there a Chicago/Midwest one? What is involved in creating/maintaing one?