You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet man!

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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Sean K - Mar 31, 2004 9:26:01 pm PST #8726 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Java, go home. Cease having a crap evening.


P.M. Marc - Mar 31, 2004 9:35:02 pm PST #8727 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

none, this is still the only one. People keep saying, "there are other communities," and I've looked dulsitorily at others but haven't found any that don't have weird threads and restrictions on the # of posts per 15 minute period.

I re-found this place (I'd lurked at TT) through a RL conversation at an event arranged on another community where half the people (at the time) acting as mods were people I'd known ages ago, back when I was running single-line boards.

I think, back in the day, back when boards were generally local things, there was an expectation that people would know/meet each other in real life. So, I guess for me, there's the knowledge that there's going to be some off-board crossover, and such. It's always a little bit of a paradigm shift without a clutch (the only expression other than Stapler Misfire I've been unable to shake from Dilbert) to realize that other people here haven't had online as their main way of interacting with people for most of their adult lives. And, like that guy in Memento, I keep forgetting that.

I don't see there's anything euphemistic about social capital. Calling it a pecking order (or a gazebo) won't change a thing.

This, yes.


Astarte - Mar 31, 2004 10:07:28 pm PST #8728 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

That wording sounds good, Jon.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 01, 2004 1:02:05 am PST #8729 of 10005
What is even happening?

Calling it a pecking order (or a gazebo) won't change a thing.

I don't know. Calling it a gazebo, might change a lot. Think of the metaphor!

HEC: Your gazebo needs re-roofing.
CINDY: Well, some of the paint is chipping off of your gazebo.
HEC: My gazebo is bigger than your gazebo.
CINDY: Yeah, well my gazebo provides cooler shade.
HEC: What.Ev. My gazebo is octagonal.


Tom Scola - Apr 01, 2004 2:07:49 am PST #8730 of 10005
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I posted (once) in the first Buffy thread.


Pix - Apr 01, 2004 2:39:32 am PST #8731 of 10005
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Also, Sean, KristIn. I know, I know, she doesn't seem to care, but she should! It's a name! It's hallowed!

Thank you ita -- I do care. I just don't generally see it as worth making a fuss over.

No hard feelings, Shawn K. (evil grin)


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2004 4:15:04 am PST #8732 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thank you for caring, Kristin. Otherwise I look quite insane, and we can't be having that, can we?


Steph L. - Apr 01, 2004 4:18:01 am PST #8733 of 10005
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Steph: I was just thinking that there are a lot more Buffista-specific words that aren't in the FAQ.

Dana: I think that's the sound of someone volunteering...

Tina: I have a list started and will add to it as people throw em out there. If they come with definitions and/or Nilly'd links to their origin - all the more helpful.

Oh - Steph - if you want to do this - please do. If not, I have no problem doing it myself.

If you already have a list going, then feel free to continue!

Also, perhaps the FAQ should acknowledge that there are groups of people who IM all the time, email all the time, journal all the time.

I don't think that's a great idea -- it just enforces the "Cool kids/cabal/b.org Illuminati" myth.


bon bon - Apr 01, 2004 4:18:23 am PST #8734 of 10005
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The social capital concept-- and I wasn't a big fan of the term first, either-- is not used to justify rude behavior, which is what you're suggesting, Java. I think what you're seeing is that it's often used to excuse it. In other words, yes, you've been rude, but we overlook it because so far, it's not particularly indicative of most of your experience; plus, you've proved that you're not ruining everyone's experience daily. And I'm OK with that. This is a clique. It's not a democracy.


Steph L. - Apr 01, 2004 4:20:08 am PST #8735 of 10005
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

What Shawn said, w/r/t social capital. It exists in meatspace, so why on earth wouldn't it exist in an online community that has the level of friendships (and marrying each other, now!) that we have?