I didn't realize that how often I, or anyone, posted influences the direction of the board. We used to run totals of who posted the most in a given month -- perhaps we should do so again.

Steph, please respect my decision to move on.

I thought I was one of the activist posters too. And that's what makes the vague generalities so damn annoying. It's like a preacher looking out on his congregation and saying "You have sinned, and I know who you are." I'd always assume he's talking to me. Except in this case we didn't voluntarily come to the sermon, and we've never heard of this preacher.

Please respect my choice to move on.

One last attempt...

Rafmun, if you toss out a bold statement, that many people disagree with, the burden of proof is on you.

You have made no attempts to prove your statement, you just put it out there and insited it was true, and claimed that anybody disagreeing with you was trying to misdirect the converstation.

Now, while people are still trying to get you to back up your claim, you say you want to drop the subject.

This is really disingenuous. You're basically doing exactly what you say we're doing, and being very cheeky about it by insiuating that some people are real assholes, without directly coming out and saying it to their faces.

I'll be bold and say I pretty much think really unpleasant things about you, simply because of your tactics through this whole thing. Tactics I think you've been using on purpose, to push people's buttons.

Respect your choice to move on? I don't think so. You've shown no respect at all to many of us, why should I return that courtesy now?

I think a lot of examples have been provided in this discussion where words and actions have driven people away - new and old.

Oddly, Megan, I've been here for this whole discussion and I don't remember any concrete examples being offered up. Care to Nilly them for me?

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Rafmus, this discussion is about more than your post, and I'd like you to please respect the need of the other posters in the thread to continue working towards some resolution, even if only for themselves.

Steph, please respect my decision to move on.

Um, no. Not Steph, but no. You don't get to let the monkey out of the cage and then walk off saying "I'm tired of the monkey, can we please talk about something else?"

I'll be bold and say I pretty much think really unpleasant things about you, simply because of your tactics through this whole thing. Tactics I think you've been using on purpose, to push people's buttons.

We have words for people that do that here. Words that include "troll", "energy creature", and "banned." If this is the impression you don't mean to give off, Rafmun, you've been pretty unsuccessful.

I didn't realize that how often I, or anyone, posted influences the direction of the board. We used to run totals of who posted the most in a given month -- perhaps we should do so again.

Steph, please respect my decision to move on.

Then move on. My posting whatever the hell I want, as frequently as I want to, is in no way impeding your ability to move the hell on. You move on by not replying to my posts.

It's not all about you, Rafmun. My post about not realizing how fucking detrimental I apparently am to this board was not directed solely to you, but rather to the board as a whole. If it had been directed solely to you, I would have e-mailed you. So get over yourself.

I've been here for this whole discussion and I don't remember any concrete examples being offered up.

Both Jen K and John H. have been mentioned.

The problem is that if you're not in the know, they're not useful examples. I have no idea what happened with Jen, except that I sometimes wondered where she went, and being a space cadet, never asked. And obviously, depending on the circumstances, it may not be pertinent to post the details, or it may not be something people are comfortable with (which is fine, considering that Jen and John aren't here to participate), but it's difficult when not everyone knows the whole history.

Not Steph, but no. You don't get to let the monkey out of the cage and then walk off saying "I'm tired of the monkey, can we please talk about something else?"

Seany, hating to disagree with you, but yeah, he can. It's his choice. Just like everything here is a choice. :)

Oh, I dunno. I'm perfectly glad to respect Rafmun's decision to move on. I am not moving on, because we have some important community stuff under discussion, as painful as that can be.

(In other words, Rafmun? You want to move on, just quit posting on the subject. People might just think you were "unduly influencing" things by trying to make us stop now that you don't want to talk about it any more.)