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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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JenP - Mar 20, 2004 1:53:22 pm PST #7575 of 10005

Is there a way to resolve this in which all parties will feel equally heard and counted and that will lead to resolution? The conversation is starting up for, I think, the third time in about a month, but I don't sense any persuasion happening.

Do a quick poll to see if the issue is of interest to enough people to address (I don't know if there are agreed upon numbers about this kind of thing anywhere)?


Beverly - Mar 20, 2004 1:56:02 pm PST #7576 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

The only resolution that makes any sense (to me, right now) is one Press thread for messages of import. Import to be determined and posted by the people who are complaining about misuse. And a bulletin board thread for the people who need to leave a quick note of something they think others might be interested in.


Lee - Mar 20, 2004 2:05:13 pm PST #7577 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

and as a matter of fact, I didn't feel it was being misused when the LAistas were managing their plans in Press.

Is this an issue for other people (even though it is not for Beverly)? If so, we have yet another conflict, because I have had mentioned to me that it gets annoying for people if Laistas (or anyone) make plans with one another in Natter or Bitches, and they prefer it if we post in Press.


Beverly - Mar 20, 2004 2:15:34 pm PST #7578 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

It's using the thread for only a certain segment of the board population (such as deathmatchers), and, thus, as I understand it, not what the thread is intended for. I could be wrong in my apprehension. I apologise in advance if I am.


JenP - Mar 20, 2004 2:16:45 pm PST #7579 of 10005

The only resolution that makes any sense (to me, right now) is one Press thread for messages of import. Import to be determined and posted by the people who are complaining about misuse. And a bulletin board thread for the people who need to leave a quick note of something they think others might be interested in.

Oh, sure. Start a thread proliferation discussion. (I am so very kidding)

I agree -- I mean, from my perspective, Press is fine and dandy, and the only thing that really applied to/interested me, for the most part, were the Deathmatch notices, which I miss being there and found useful. Everything else, a quick read and scroll. No big. I don't mind reading about people's plans either; in fact, sometimes it's fun. And those things do get lost in Natter or wherever. So, you know, that just makes me the anti-matter to another person's (equally valid) matter. Hmmm, maybe if we all met up in one room, Press would explode.

I like Beverly's idea, FWmyopinionIW, if that would resolve the issue (ETA: well, actually, I like it regardless of it's resolving powers; I just happen to think it has said powers). Some things, while they might not be of great import to the majority, do interest enough people to warrant posting. Some people like checking stuff out just to see what's what. Those who really are only interested in Big Community Issues could avoid a more general BBoard unless/until they felt like checking it out.


Jesse - Mar 20, 2004 2:20:17 pm PST #7580 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But there would be no way to know when the specific-small-group bulletin board posts applied to you, so you'd still either have to read them all or miss, say, a Buffista coming to your town.

I don't know what the solution is, if there is a significant group of people who find the current level of posting in Press to be a hardship.


Lee - Mar 20, 2004 2:22:37 pm PST #7581 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Beverly, I am sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you for asking, because I absolutely did not mean to. Your post was just the first time I had seen that issue mentioned, and it surprised me, since many people/groups use Press for social announcements. (Laistas do it more often than others though, I know.)


JenP - Mar 20, 2004 2:25:14 pm PST #7582 of 10005

I don't know what the solution is, if there is a significant group of people who find the current level of posting in Press to be a hardship.

That's kind of why I was thinking about a poll. But, again, I don't know if there are standards for the numbers that constitute a significant group of people.


Lyra Jane - Mar 20, 2004 2:25:29 pm PST #7583 of 10005
Up with the sun

I've seen very few things in Press that I thought absolutely didn't belong there. Besides, not everyone is in literary or spoilers or natter, so announcements made there are more likely to get lost.

If specific posters made constant low-interest announcements, it might bug me, but that's not the current situation. As it is, it's hard for me to get up in arms over fewer than four posts a day.

To be fair, though, there's been drift of the other direction in that thread, too. At least, my recollection is that there were initially a lot of "away for the weekend, see you on Monday" posts that don't come up so much now.

I have the same recollection :-), and we have cut down on that. I'm not crazy about the requests for healthma for pets and relatives, because that seems more like natter fodder to me, but I understand that it makes some people feel better -- and again, there aren't so many posts that it's a burden to skim past.


victor infante - Mar 20, 2004 3:05:04 pm PST #7584 of 10005
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Is there a way to resolve this in which all parties will feel equally heard and counted and that will lead to resolution?

There's always my method of not caring very much about things like this.

I find vodka helps.