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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Lee - Mar 20, 2004 2:22:37 pm PST #7581 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Beverly, I am sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you for asking, because I absolutely did not mean to. Your post was just the first time I had seen that issue mentioned, and it surprised me, since many people/groups use Press for social announcements. (Laistas do it more often than others though, I know.)


JenP - Mar 20, 2004 2:25:14 pm PST #7582 of 10005

I don't know what the solution is, if there is a significant group of people who find the current level of posting in Press to be a hardship.

That's kind of why I was thinking about a poll. But, again, I don't know if there are standards for the numbers that constitute a significant group of people.


Lyra Jane - Mar 20, 2004 2:25:29 pm PST #7583 of 10005
Up with the sun

I've seen very few things in Press that I thought absolutely didn't belong there. Besides, not everyone is in literary or spoilers or natter, so announcements made there are more likely to get lost.

If specific posters made constant low-interest announcements, it might bug me, but that's not the current situation. As it is, it's hard for me to get up in arms over fewer than four posts a day.

To be fair, though, there's been drift of the other direction in that thread, too. At least, my recollection is that there were initially a lot of "away for the weekend, see you on Monday" posts that don't come up so much now.

I have the same recollection :-), and we have cut down on that. I'm not crazy about the requests for healthma for pets and relatives, because that seems more like natter fodder to me, but I understand that it makes some people feel better -- and again, there aren't so many posts that it's a burden to skim past.


victor infante - Mar 20, 2004 3:05:04 pm PST #7584 of 10005
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Is there a way to resolve this in which all parties will feel equally heard and counted and that will lead to resolution?

There's always my method of not caring very much about things like this.

I find vodka helps.


DCJensen - Mar 20, 2004 3:12:15 pm PST #7585 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

I guess I don't understand the objection to the deathmatch postings. It's like having a company bulletin board and complaining about postings for the company bowling league. Sure, not everyone is going to try out for it, but the information has to be available for all

It's the same with deathmatches. They're the bowling league of the buffistas. Only the bowling league here accepts drop-by members who want to casually drop in from time to time.

It's a general announcement thread.

One question, are F2F events not posted there? If not, do we have to subscribe to the f2f discussion just to find that info?

I guess I kind of like the big message board approach for Press.

in fact, Press is more like the official company bulletin board, wheras Beep Me is more like one might find in the employee lounge.

Of course, I've been in companies that have a neat, tidy official bulletin board with extreme restrictions on content. I like the companies with the messier ones. It shows that the company is a little more "human," and you feel more at home.

YEMV.


JenP - Mar 20, 2004 3:21:29 pm PST #7586 of 10005

There's always my method of not caring very much about things like this.

This is usually me. Except not caring very much seems actually to be a side in this discussion, so, I into-ed the fray. If that makes sense. Well, and I guess even if it doesn't. All your paralyzed with not caring very much are belong to me.

I find vodka helps.

I find this to be true often.


Consuela - Mar 20, 2004 4:12:37 pm PST #7587 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm not that particular about what goes into Press. So long as it's not really absurdly petty, I'm fine with it. And upon reflection I don't even have an opinion about the Deathmatches. One or two posts per day end up in Press, and I think that's fine.

YReactionMV.


msbelle - Mar 20, 2004 4:54:37 pm PST #7588 of 10005
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

As it is, it's hard for me to get up in
arms over fewer than four posts a day.

this.

My guess is less than half of what is posted in press is of interest to me. I am making a choice to venture into any thread, I hope to find posts/discussions in those threads I want to read and/or join. Sometimes I do, sometimes not.

I do not think that the way Press is being used is a problem, not the deathmatch announcements, not the single posts that are not board related at all. They are all announcements, they may be of interest to someone. If one person was posting daily about topics of seemingly no interest to any population on the board, that would be a problem.

embrace the skim. 1-2 minutes max.


Wolfram - Mar 20, 2004 4:58:37 pm PST #7589 of 10005
Visilurking

Recently, I've tried to stay out of most of these board policy discussions, mostly because the longer I hang out here the more I realize how little time I've hung out here. But, FWIW, here's my two cents.

I don't think Press has been abused. I think there is always going to be some confusion about what's appropriate for each thread and some of that's going to depend on who is posting or what it's about.

Examples:
Important: a Stompy posts that he/she is going to go grey for a week.
NSM: Newbista who's been here a week posts that he/she is going to go grey for a weekend.

Important: Plans for a group of DC/Baltimoristas to get together for a BBQ.
NSM: Plans for two Buffistas to call each other during this week's Everwood.

I'm in agreement with the folks who don't want to see this become a huge issue. I also think that if a person feels that any particular Buffista's posts don't rise to the level of "community announcements" then that person should email the Stompies and let them decide whether to send a polite email to the Buffista who's posting about his/her coffee breaks and manicures and politely ask him/her to stop it.

Granted, I was not around for TT or WX or the setup of this board, and I may be missing a lot of the reasons why those threads were created, so feel free to disregard this post. But as a regular Buffistas.org addict user, I have not felt those thread usages need review right now.


Connie Neil - Mar 20, 2004 5:04:10 pm PST #7590 of 10005
brillig

I've always seen Press as just that, a version of the want ad section of a newspaper. Beep Me has always struck me as the more personal version--heck, the Personals section. The other good analogy for Press is a table or something you have in your house where whomever gets home first drops the mail that was in the mailbox. You look through the pile, see if there's anything for you, and you ignore the rest.