What Michele said. If a banned person asked to come back, we could consider the question then. We aren't in that situation right now.
Right. Piano. Because that's what we used to kill that big demon that one time. No, wait. That was a rocket launcher.
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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
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Jesse - Dec 22, 2003 10:41:55 am PST #6334 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Lyra Jane - Dec 22, 2003 10:42:17 am PST #6335 of 10005
Up with the sun
Trudy, I would be very, very uncomfortable with any policy or decision that suggested that we had different standards for different posters depending on what caused their problems with board culture. It's immaterial from this end of the screen whether someone has a psychotic break, or if they're getting divorced and don't like the other gender very much right then, or if they're just an asshole -- it's all equally disruptive. I have sympathy for Zoe's problem, and I'm glad she's doing better, but that sympathy does not extend to wanting to make an exception for her.
It's worth noting that when Schmoker asked to be reinstated, the consensus was pretty much "hell, no." And he was capable of fitting in with board culture when he tried.
Steph L. - Dec 22, 2003 10:43:44 am PST #6336 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Like I said, I just wanted to propose that I think it would be kind (and in the spirit of the season) to say, "Glad to hear that you are feeling better. If you'd like to come back for a month and see how it goes...."
I'm really against this. She didn't ask to come back.
Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 10:44:43 am PST #6337 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
It reads to me that she might like to be asked back.
We disagree, that's no big deal. Neither of us had definitive knowledge, however.
Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 10:47:20 am PST #6338 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I was among those in favor of taking Schmoker back too.
An opinion being unpopular doesn't make it unexpressable.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 10:48:33 am PST #6339 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Trying to stay out of this, because this is just a giant kerfuffle I don't think we need, but what happens the next time she forgets to take her meds and she has another psychotic break all over the board?
Like many bi-polars, psychotics have a nasty tendacy to just stop taking their meds after a while.
Lyra Jane - Dec 22, 2003 10:52:29 am PST #6340 of 10005
Up with the sun
An opinion being unpopular doesn't make it unexpressable.
I hope you didn't think I was saying that, Trudy. I am a big fan of unpopular opinion-expression, given how many I have had during my time here.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I wouldn't object to a policy that said that if we banned somene and they asked to come back, we could reinstate them after 12 months. (I don't think Zoe has even been gone for six.) But doing it case-by-case seems both unfair and overly complicated to me.
Michele T. - Dec 22, 2003 11:05:38 am PST #6341 of 10005
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Trudy, this is I swear to God the last thing I'm gonna say on the topic: I do, in fact, have definitive knowledge. I have definitive knowledge that she did not ask to be reinstated. Therefore, the question of whether she should be reinstated is a moot one.
Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 11:23:19 am PST #6342 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Michele, you thought it read as a good bye, I thought it read as a polite hint. Our having different perceptions is really not a problem.
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 22, 2003 11:32:31 am PST #6343 of 10005
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I can see how it might be a hint, in a passive-aggressive "I lack the courage to ask directly, but won't you give me validation and make me the center of attention by asking me back?" way.
To which my answer would be a resounding "When Hell freezes over!"