Riley: Maybe I should just let you rest. Buffy: You sure? I bet if you just lay down with me- Riley: Nothing you are about to say will lead to rest.

'Lessons'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Lyra Jane - Dec 22, 2003 10:52:29 am PST #6340 of 10005
Up with the sun

An opinion being unpopular doesn't make it unexpressable.

I hope you didn't think I was saying that, Trudy. I am a big fan of unpopular opinion-expression, given how many I have had during my time here.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I wouldn't object to a policy that said that if we banned somene and they asked to come back, we could reinstate them after 12 months. (I don't think Zoe has even been gone for six.) But doing it case-by-case seems both unfair and overly complicated to me.


Michele T. - Dec 22, 2003 11:05:38 am PST #6341 of 10005
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Trudy, this is I swear to God the last thing I'm gonna say on the topic: I do, in fact, have definitive knowledge. I have definitive knowledge that she did not ask to be reinstated. Therefore, the question of whether she should be reinstated is a moot one.


Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 11:23:19 am PST #6342 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Michele, you thought it read as a good bye, I thought it read as a polite hint. Our having different perceptions is really not a problem.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 22, 2003 11:32:31 am PST #6343 of 10005
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I can see how it might be a hint, in a passive-aggressive "I lack the courage to ask directly, but won't you give me validation and make me the center of attention by asking me back?" way.

To which my answer would be a resounding "When Hell freezes over!"


Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2003 11:39:02 am PST #6344 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I thought she might be being British about it-- but my knowledge of such is limited and based on Victorian childrens novels.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2003 11:42:40 am PST #6345 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's clear no one has asked to be reinstated. Whatever motivations may lie underneath are a) unknown and b) not our problem.


Laura - Dec 22, 2003 11:43:50 am PST #6346 of 10005
Our wings are not tired.

I appreciated reading the note. Standing in the no response required corner.


NoiseDesign - Dec 22, 2003 11:44:12 am PST #6347 of 10005
Our wings are not tired

I'm of the school of thought that until she can work up the nerve to come forward and ASK for reinstatement then it is a non-issue. If she can only hint around at it, then she's not ready to come to terms with the destruction that she caused here, whether it be the results of a episode or not. Yes, I do deal with this stuff, a roommate of mine is bipolar, going off meds is not fun, we have a incident with a dead pet to prove it.


Micole - Dec 22, 2003 11:53:41 am PST #6348 of 10005
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I appreciate that Zoe has apologized for her behavior earlier this year. I appreciate that she did this, also, without apparent ulterior motive, that is, without requesting to be taken back on the board.

I do not think we should ask her back. Her behavior *was* extremely disruptive and despite the apology I do not feel confident that the disruption would not recur.


smonster - Dec 22, 2003 12:00:22 pm PST #6349 of 10005
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I, too, appreciate the apology/explanation. I wish her good health and much happiness. She didn't ask to come back. If/when she does, it could be discussed. I personally doubt such a request would be granted.

(FTR, I was an active advocate for Zoe at the time)