Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Consuela - Aug 28, 2003 7:10:52 am PDT #4861 of 10005
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

it was actually Consuela ... who offered compelling reasons for why it would be okay to consolidate

Huh. Well, I wasn't arguing pro-consolidation so much as explaining why it would be okay for me. I'm willing to go a long way in favor of protecting this community as a whole, and I do feel as though some people aren't getting that. That these sorts of decisions should be made with the goal of obtaining the greatest good for the community, and for me that means, if necessary, sacrificing a Farscape thread in order to keep the Buffy and Angel threads going. (But that then takes us back to the discussion nobody wants to have, which is who are we and where are we going.)

I'm also getting uncomfortable with the, well, sniping about the outcome of the vote.

We hashed out this process in a long and painful battle over the last year. There is no perfect solution, and the larger we get the more difficult it's going to be to make these decisions. But we voted, the community made its decisions, and we live with it.

I think Kat and everyone involved did an excellent job of compiling the options and presenting the pros and cons of each question, and they should be commended. t stands up and applauds


Lee - Aug 28, 2003 7:18:16 am PDT #4862 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

t stands up next to Consuela, also applauding.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 28, 2003 7:21:34 am PDT #4863 of 10005
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What 'suela said.

As for this:

But that then takes us back to the discussion nobody wants to have, which is who are we and where are we going.

We should open a thread to discuss this and call it "Where do we go from here?"

runs away, serpentine!


Am-Chau Yarkona - Aug 28, 2003 7:23:21 am PDT #4864 of 10005
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

  • applauds*

'suela, thank you for the sense-making. Ken, thanks for the earworm.


Wolfram - Aug 28, 2003 7:30:58 am PDT #4865 of 10005
Visilurking

I also want to go on record that I'm really unhappy about the loss of spoilage lite. Spoilage lite was a great place for us spoilage non-virgins to flirt, make-out, get a little casting spoiler action and still respect ourselves in the morning. Now there's really no thread for us to do that (and just because I enjoy a bit of spoilage nookie now and then, doesn't mean I'm ready to ho' myself in the hard core thread.)

I am not proposing that the vote was invalid or unfair in any way. The will of the community was to close the thread and so be it.

I agree with Daniel that we may want to limit the questions on the ballot. And truthfully, I got so wrapped up in defending the need for the Previously thread, I completely overlooked the fact that Spoilage Lite was on the chopping block as well, and I should have defended that thread too. I can only blame myself for not reading it carefully, because the issue was plainly out there.


Michele T. - Aug 28, 2003 8:03:19 am PDT #4866 of 10005
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Not trying to stir things up between the virgins and hos again, but the options in my mind seem to be to either have the lite stuff whitefonted so the pure can avoid, or ask a ho. I know that my specific questions have always been promtly answered by someone in the know.

Well, I wasn't in SL to have specific questions answered -- I wanted heads-up on things like reported casting spoilers, episode titles, writers getting assigned to things and the like. And given that we had to have a VOTE to mention the Big Casting Spoiler on Angel in the Angel thread, even in whitefont, despite the fact that the WB was already doing *publicity* for it, suggests that whitefont discussion of Spoilage Lite topics won't play well during the season either.

I'm not trying to overturn the vote, here -- I'm just saying that I'm willing to bet this causes more trouble than it solves.


Trudy Booth - Aug 28, 2003 8:10:33 am PDT #4867 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And given that we had to have a VOTE to mention the Big Casting Spoiler on Angel in the Angel thread, even in whitefont, despite the fact that the WB was already doing *publicity* for it

Jesus, you got what you wanted, quit bitching, ok?

We have a procedure, we followed the procedure, the majority ruled. Sometimes an individual will like the outcome, sometimes not. It's time to move on.


Lyra Jane - Aug 28, 2003 8:29:35 am PDT #4868 of 10005
Up with the sun

If I remember correctly, before spoilage lite we could post things like episode titles, writers, etc. in whitefont in the main thread. Will that be the case again? Or am I completely wrong about the pre-lite policy anyhow?


Steph L. - Aug 28, 2003 8:35:01 am PDT #4869 of 10005
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I can't remember why episode titles are spoilery. Or, for that matter, writers.


Jessica - Aug 28, 2003 8:38:05 am PDT #4870 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't remember why episode titles are spoilery. Or, for that matter, writers.

Me neither. It's not like ME's in the habit of naming their eps "The One Where Willow Turns Evil And Flays Warren."