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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Kristen - Aug 20, 2003 7:39:36 am PDT #4308 of 10005

Hasn't it come up and been shot down multiple times? Wasn't avoiding topics like that one of the main reasons for the gf in the first place?

You know, I remembered that it was grandfathered in after I made my anti-TV thread posts. I didn't bring it up because I decided that, after the most recent gf discussion, I didn't want to go there again.

ETA: And Steph explains why I didn't want to bring it up better than I could.


Wolfram - Aug 20, 2003 7:50:42 am PDT #4309 of 10005
Visilurking

I think we agreed that the grandfather clause card can't be used unless a cite/link to the discussion/consensus is provided. Or maybe I'm just making that up.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 7:51:03 am PDT #4310 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, I just didn't remember a general TV thread discussion ever getting that far before which, as I understood it, was NOT covered by the grandfather clause, as it never got serious attention.

I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong about that, but that's why I was curious.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 7:51:27 am PDT #4311 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think we agreed that the grandfather clause card can't be used unless a cite/link to the discussion/consensus is provided. Or maybe I'm just making that up.

No, you're not making that up, Wolf.


Wolfram - Aug 20, 2003 7:52:23 am PDT #4312 of 10005
Visilurking

That doesn't mean I'm not crazy.


Burrell - Aug 20, 2003 8:14:58 am PDT #4313 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think brenda's right about a general tv thread fitting under the grandfather clause. But since it's a moot point right now, I think it doesn't warrant too much debate at the moment.


Cindy - Aug 20, 2003 9:32:23 am PDT #4314 of 10005
Nobody

I think brenda's right about a general tv thread fitting under the grandfather clause. But since it's a moot point right now, I think it doesn't warrant too much debate at the moment.

I agree, but again, the TV proposal only became moot, because we were asked to stop to address a fund-raising issue, which now may not exist.

So - again, I ask - please - if someone wants to challenge an eventual TV thread proposal using grandfather, dig up Betsy's wording on how to challenge, and then dig up your cites where we consensed-out-of-commission a TV thread, and do so pre-emptively, so we don't have a bunch of people already invested in formulating the ballot. It'll make life easier for all of us.


Kristen - Aug 20, 2003 9:41:21 am PDT #4315 of 10005

because we were asked to stop to address a fund-raising issue, which now may not exist

Just to clarify - it was a technical issue and it still exists.


Cindy - Aug 20, 2003 9:43:17 am PDT #4316 of 10005
Nobody

Just to clarify - it was a technical issue and it still exists.

Yes, sorry, there is also a technical issue. But I think Raquel stopped, based on Allyson's plea for us to stop and fundraise. I don't think the proposal died forever. I think it died until we know if we can have a new thread or not (technically - and what that'll entail financially) - and so if someone wants to stop it because of the grandfather clause, they should do it now, and put us out of our misery now.


Allyson - Aug 20, 2003 10:05:04 am PDT #4317 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

But I think Raquel stopped, based on Allyson's plea for us to stop and fundraise.

My plea was to stop until we knew more about board health, and fundraising was about a doomsday scenario, in case board health reached a critical level that meant moving to a dedicated server.

We shouldn't be discussing thread expansion until we know where we're at now, where we will be at the start of the new teevee season.

What we should be talking about is tightening up what we have already, which seems to be moving along, now, anyway.

Adding to the house of cards now seems a bad idea, since we can't see the foundation, yet.