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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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brenda m - Aug 18, 2003 8:30:21 am PDT #4102 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hmm. I'd rather wait and see if any of the new shows seem to be taking off (with us, if not the general viewing public) before moving them from Natter. Although I do think that if individual shows seem to find a home in another thread, like OC with whichever one it's in or Stargate in Due South, that that's okay as well.


DavidS - Aug 18, 2003 8:32:53 am PDT #4103 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hmm, I really dislike whitefont discussion. I know some people go "what's the big? You highlight the white font" but it just bugs me seeing big gaps on the page, and I don't want to read it. I think this is a problem with doing TV discussion in Natter.

I do think we're evolving post Buffy. Unlike Burrell, I like the general threads. We grandfathered over a lot of threads which look really inconsistent now. I think it would be a good time to streamline and combine and repurpose. I think a priority would have to be for respecting the active communities in threads like LoTR or Due South (in my mind, the de facto HoYay thread). Aside from that, it would be nice to have a bit more logic in our structure.

If we don't have a general TV thread, I suspect the Tim thread might become a sort of BtVS alumni thread. But that's...even more inconsistant and weird. Would we discuss Gilmore Girls because Jane writes for them now?


Betsy HP - Aug 18, 2003 8:42:50 am PDT #4104 of 10005
If I only had a brain...

What about a Buffyverse Alumni TV thread?


Lyra Jane - Aug 18, 2003 8:44:03 am PDT #4105 of 10005
Up with the sun

Lyra, make that a formal proposal, and I'll second it.

I may, once I see how discussion goes.

The main problem I can see is that Angel is going into reruns on TNT end of September. That discussion can go into either Previously or Angel. If it goes into Previously and Previously also becomes the main Buffy thread, there might be a high volume of posts on really disparate topics. But if it goes into Angel, it would be interspersed with new episode chatter, and there might be spoilage issues. We could make a Previously on Angel, of course, but that seems kind of proliferationy.

Although I do think that if individual shows seem to find a home in another thread, like OC with whichever one it's in or Stargate in Due South, that that's okay as well.

This bugs me because it makes it very hard to find those discussions if you aren't there when they start. Plus, it's not what the thread is (supposed to be) about -- it's annoying, at least to me, to stop in on the Buffy thread and get 87 new posts about some TV show I have never seen.

Burrell, what about general threads bugs you?


Astarte - Aug 18, 2003 8:45:06 am PDT #4106 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

I like the idea of a Buffyverse Alumni thread.

It's general, yet still specific...

Looks longingly at her cake...


Katie M - Aug 18, 2003 8:45:45 am PDT #4107 of 10005
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

If it goes into Previously and Previously also becomes the main Buffy thread, there might be a high volume of posts on really disparate topics.

I think that's pretty unlikely, though. I can believe that there'll be an upswing of Angel discussion due to the reruns, but Buffy's been in reruns for quite a while. There'll be the occasional bounce, but not so much that I'd expect high-volume cross-conversation.


DavidS - Aug 18, 2003 8:47:20 am PDT #4108 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What about a Buffyverse Alumni TV thread?

I kind of like this too, except it may not cohere much as a thread/community/discussion with Gilmore Girls and Tru Calling and whatever sitcom NB gets.


Jessica - Aug 18, 2003 8:50:47 am PDT #4109 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can believe that there'll be an upswing of Angel discussion due to the reruns, but Buffy's been in reruns for quite a while. There'll be the occasional bounce, but not so much that I'd expect high-volume cross-conversation.

And, really, Buffy reruns and Angel reruns aren't totally disparate topics.

Currently, we have a thread for past Buffy eps, and a thread for current Buffy eps. Since there are no more current eps, the Previously thread is, IMO, the "main" Buffy thread whether we make it official or not.


Nutty - Aug 18, 2003 8:50:58 am PDT #4110 of 10005
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Creating separate threads for each show is risky because any of them could get canceled

Right. My general thinking is that we have a home for talk of many sorts, until and unless there is a breakout show that everyone is talking about, drowning the rest of the thread. That breakout is due for a proposal to get its own thread. (Actually, what worries me most is the idea that we could have 2-3 threads for every TV show we watch: main, spoilers, unamerican, previously. I am sort of thinking we'll need to re-jigger our thinking on spoilers in future, for mere convenience's sake, and require most/all spoilers for most/all shows in a single thread. But that's a bridge we'll burn when we get to it.)

Also, housekeeping on dead shows is a good idea.

Concur. I'm generally for a TV thread, although it's also one of those that was specifically mentioned as Do Not Open Till September. Which, hey, is 10 days away, and I should remind you all now that my birthday is the 9th.

I'd like to hear opinions on a TV thread, because my thinking on the matter is mostly shallow and "Yeah, okay".


Lyra Jane - Aug 18, 2003 8:52:35 am PDT #4111 of 10005
Up with the sun

And, really, Buffy reruns and Angel reruns aren't totally disparate topics.

No, not totally.

Honestly, it's not something that I would see as some major huge stumbling block, I was just sort of thinking out loud about what it would mean for us to shut down the Buffy thread.