Don't worry, we're sure to spot Faith first. She's like this cleavagy slut-bomb walking around 'Ooh, check me out, I'm wicked-cool, I'm five-by-five.'

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


amych - Aug 18, 2003 7:58:50 am PDT #4097 of 10005
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Oh god, I'm turning into a proliferationista. Make it stop!

Nah, you're talking about repurposing a thread; I'd only send the men in white coats for you if you started wanting a dedicated thread for every show that three or more people wanted to talk about.


Betsy HP - Aug 18, 2003 8:02:22 am PDT #4098 of 10005
If I only had a brain...

Lyra, make that a formal proposal, and I'll second it.


Burrell - Aug 18, 2003 8:12:13 am PDT #4099 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Feh, I so don't want a general tv thread. I hate the general t fill in the blank threads.


Jessica - Aug 18, 2003 8:16:27 am PDT #4100 of 10005
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

cut the main buffy thread; and added a general TV thread

This is more what I was thinking -- replace either Buffy or Previously with a general TV thread. If people want that.

(And I agree that it's probably time to archive Buffy Spoilage Light.)


Allyson - Aug 18, 2003 8:19:20 am PDT #4101 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

While I'm pretty much against thread proliferation in that I think careful consideration should go into the creation of new thread so we don't end up with:

Bowling 9: Pick up the spare!

It would seem that Buffistas without Buffy is in the middle of evolving.

Tru has former Buffy writer Doug Petrie on staff as well as a Buffyverse actor. Jake 2.0 is produced by David Greenwalt. Gilmore Girls has Jane Espenson on staff. Wonderfalls is produced by our Tim. Smallville has its own thread, and also featured Drew Greenberg on staff. Mere Smith moved on to Tarzan, and Rebecca Rand Kirshner has gone...sheesh I can't remember.

The OC and TAR have had whitefont Natter discussion, which is fine, it doesn't seem to take over the thread and the audience seems pretty limited.

I just wonder if it doesn't make sense to spin out a general television thread as an outlet for our teevee habits now that Buffy is gone, and Firefly is finishing up for UKistas. It's not so much about proliferation for me, as it is about organization. I think it was Angel or Firefly that became a de facto Miracles thread for some time.

Creating separate threads for each show is risky because any of them could get canceled if a cool breeze tickles the balls of the nearest teevee exec, but a way to organize discussion of shows is a good idea.

Also, housekeeping on dead shows is a good idea. Come December we can consolidate the Firefly threads, and we can also finish out Buffy and Buffy Spoilage Lite, right?


brenda m - Aug 18, 2003 8:30:21 am PDT #4102 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hmm. I'd rather wait and see if any of the new shows seem to be taking off (with us, if not the general viewing public) before moving them from Natter. Although I do think that if individual shows seem to find a home in another thread, like OC with whichever one it's in or Stargate in Due South, that that's okay as well.


DavidS - Aug 18, 2003 8:32:53 am PDT #4103 of 10005
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hmm, I really dislike whitefont discussion. I know some people go "what's the big? You highlight the white font" but it just bugs me seeing big gaps on the page, and I don't want to read it. I think this is a problem with doing TV discussion in Natter.

I do think we're evolving post Buffy. Unlike Burrell, I like the general threads. We grandfathered over a lot of threads which look really inconsistent now. I think it would be a good time to streamline and combine and repurpose. I think a priority would have to be for respecting the active communities in threads like LoTR or Due South (in my mind, the de facto HoYay thread). Aside from that, it would be nice to have a bit more logic in our structure.

If we don't have a general TV thread, I suspect the Tim thread might become a sort of BtVS alumni thread. But that's...even more inconsistant and weird. Would we discuss Gilmore Girls because Jane writes for them now?


Betsy HP - Aug 18, 2003 8:42:50 am PDT #4104 of 10005
If I only had a brain...

What about a Buffyverse Alumni TV thread?


Lyra Jane - Aug 18, 2003 8:44:03 am PDT #4105 of 10005
Up with the sun

Lyra, make that a formal proposal, and I'll second it.

I may, once I see how discussion goes.

The main problem I can see is that Angel is going into reruns on TNT end of September. That discussion can go into either Previously or Angel. If it goes into Previously and Previously also becomes the main Buffy thread, there might be a high volume of posts on really disparate topics. But if it goes into Angel, it would be interspersed with new episode chatter, and there might be spoilage issues. We could make a Previously on Angel, of course, but that seems kind of proliferationy.

Although I do think that if individual shows seem to find a home in another thread, like OC with whichever one it's in or Stargate in Due South, that that's okay as well.

This bugs me because it makes it very hard to find those discussions if you aren't there when they start. Plus, it's not what the thread is (supposed to be) about -- it's annoying, at least to me, to stop in on the Buffy thread and get 87 new posts about some TV show I have never seen.

Burrell, what about general threads bugs you?


Astarte - Aug 18, 2003 8:45:06 am PDT #4106 of 10005
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

I like the idea of a Buffyverse Alumni thread.

It's general, yet still specific...

Looks longingly at her cake...