Where do I find the previous Bureaucracy thread?
On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!
Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 7:38:54 pm PDT #35 of 10005
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Theodosia - Apr 14, 2003 7:43:09 pm PDT #36 of 10005
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
It's showing up in the general thread listing in "Buffistas Home".
Connie Neil - Apr 14, 2003 7:44:46 pm PDT #37 of 10005
brillig
Are we discussing the specific situation here or in the Lightbulb thread (where I haven't gotten yet)? Or is the Lightbulb thread being theoretical?
§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 7:49:15 pm PDT #38 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The lightbulb thread is to discuss matters being voted on (see Press for proposal under consideration).
msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 7:50:21 pm PDT #39 of 10005
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
The lightbulb thread is discussing a proposal about how to bring a poster to the point of getting a warning from the community. We are not discussing any individual situation.
Connie Neil - Apr 14, 2003 7:55:03 pm PDT #40 of 10005
brillig
So I saw.
§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 7:57:11 pm PDT #41 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Okay. Caught up in I:
I'm not twelve, I'm not peer pressure's bitch.
I never said you were; don't put words in my mouth.
It may have looked like what I was doing, but it wasn't my intent. Frankly, I don't see why it's not an example of peer pressure, or that group rage that makes riots. I also don't remember ever seeing it happening, so I'm at a loss for precisely what you do mean, I suppose. Much like Lyra Jane's "one day there could be a very hostile situation" translating into what I see compromising current optimal procedure -- I'm against it.
Can you take it out of the theory and into the practical?
For me, the practical is that I like to think that when I change my mind, *I* change my mind, due to reflection, or additional information, or the reading of the tea leaves, or whatever. You seem to be implying it's significantly different from that, if I change my mind due to/as part of a pile-on, enough to sway board treatment of a poster.
Honestly, I find my POV swaying, and nudged, as I learn new things about the situation at hand. That's what I call a good thing. I don't understand why it's a bad thing.
Deena - Apr 14, 2003 8:03:44 pm PDT #42 of 10005
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
Since I think this issue is pretty dead as far as the current proposal, I'm stating here, for the record, that, if no one else wants to draft a proposal regarding time limits for warning effectiveness and the definition of the requirements of moving to suspension after a warning has been issued, I'll do it. I'm a little nervous about it and I will be asking for assistance, but I brought it up, so I'll do it.
Monique - Apr 14, 2003 8:10:49 pm PDT #43 of 10005
Is there any way to get the thread up above BBaBB? If not, that's cool. Thanks.
P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2003 8:36:59 pm PDT #44 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I don't think so.
Okay. One wee, small, I was gone all day thing...
Those of you who are so upset at someone honestly answering a question, well. That baffles me. Honestly. It just seems like questions were being asked, when the answer would be known, and you'd know you wouldn't like it.
Okay, maybe there's such a thing as too much honesty, but you know what? I think I find (and this goes for anyone, because I brought it up WRT to Zoe, and I brought it up WRT me, and I'll bring it up now) asking someone to apologize like that is, well... counterproductive. All it does for me is get my back up and make me even more stubborn or truculent. Fight or flight. It pushes all my buttons, and I find it kind of offensive, even if I've probably been guilty of it myself.
Just something to keep in mind.