Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Laura - Apr 14, 2003 7:20:13 pm PDT #32 of 10005
Our wings are not tired.

What msbelle said askye. I don't think that those people who may call for some understanding of Zoe are trying to make light of your discomfort. Some people will always want to bend over backwards to give a poster the benefit of the doubt. I am not one of them, but I have been like that IRL about people who may not have deserved such consideration.


Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 7:26:56 pm PDT #33 of 10005
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I feel you askye. I think that I'm trying to let the stuff about pile-ons and ganging up roll off my back because we're arguing about one poster who has, I feel violated the spirit of the community. I'd rather stick to discussing that.


Nicole - Apr 14, 2003 7:30:32 pm PDT #34 of 10005
I'm getting the pig!

I am an infrequent poster however I read the posts made by all the other Buffistas daily. I enjoy the comraderie of the Buffistas as it is unlike any other board I have seen. Until lately.

With that said, I would like to request (not demand) that everyone make an attempt to see this situation from every angle. I hate that one person is (seemingly) creating a tear in the fabric that is Buffistas. Hate it.

Everyone is shaped by experiences in their lives. All different experiences. Certain situations will always be more difficult for some than others and therefore will affect us all in a different manner.

The way we deal with these situations may not always be 'perfect' but we're all human. I doubt that any of us could claim to have handled our anger or hurt in the best way during every situation that has come along in our lives.

For me, personally, I will be leaving any and all important decisions up to the long standing members of this community. They built this community and have put the most effort into this site. I feel they have the most to gain or lose. Therefore, I trust them to decide what is best since they were the reason I was originally intrigued by Buffistas in the first place.


Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 7:38:54 pm PDT #35 of 10005
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Where do I find the previous Bureaucracy thread?


Theodosia - Apr 14, 2003 7:43:09 pm PDT #36 of 10005
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It's showing up in the general thread listing in "Buffistas Home".


Connie Neil - Apr 14, 2003 7:44:46 pm PDT #37 of 10005
brillig

Are we discussing the specific situation here or in the Lightbulb thread (where I haven't gotten yet)? Or is the Lightbulb thread being theoretical?


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 7:49:15 pm PDT #38 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The lightbulb thread is to discuss matters being voted on (see Press for proposal under consideration).


msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 7:50:21 pm PDT #39 of 10005
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The lightbulb thread is discussing a proposal about how to bring a poster to the point of getting a warning from the community. We are not discussing any individual situation.


Connie Neil - Apr 14, 2003 7:55:03 pm PDT #40 of 10005
brillig

So I saw.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 7:57:11 pm PDT #41 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay. Caught up in I:

I'm not twelve, I'm not peer pressure's bitch.

I never said you were; don't put words in my mouth.

It may have looked like what I was doing, but it wasn't my intent. Frankly, I don't see why it's not an example of peer pressure, or that group rage that makes riots. I also don't remember ever seeing it happening, so I'm at a loss for precisely what you do mean, I suppose. Much like Lyra Jane's "one day there could be a very hostile situation" translating into what I see compromising current optimal procedure -- I'm against it.

Can you take it out of the theory and into the practical?

For me, the practical is that I like to think that when I change my mind, *I* change my mind, due to reflection, or additional information, or the reading of the tea leaves, or whatever. You seem to be implying it's significantly different from that, if I change my mind due to/as part of a pile-on, enough to sway board treatment of a poster.

Honestly, I find my POV swaying, and nudged, as I learn new things about the situation at hand. That's what I call a good thing. I don't understand why it's a bad thing.