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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Susan W. - May 18, 2003 12:04:49 pm PDT #2085 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan - fwiw, I always see you as cool, and objective.

That's just because I avoid some topics altogether, and delete posts quickly if I realize I've flown off the handle.

I sometimes tell people I was a Klingon raised on Vulcan--I want to be the cool, objective one, but I have this volatile, combative temper that comes surging to the surface every so often no matter how I try to keep it in check.


DCJensen - May 18, 2003 12:26:48 pm PDT #2086 of 10005
All is well that ends in pizza.

I sometimes tell people I was a Klingon raised on Vulcan--I want to be the cool, objective one, but I have this volatile, combative temper that comes surging to the surface every so often no matter how I try to keep it in check.

heh. me, too, but I'm getting better....


Wolfram - May 18, 2003 12:43:09 pm PDT #2087 of 10005
Visilurking

I'm sorry Askye. I should have just asked about the typo, but I was actually amused by the biological mumbo-jumbo that came up when I looked up the definition of the current spelling and I wanted to share. Also at the time the spelling caught my eye, the board was going wonky so I couldn't ask about it, so I started to look for myself to see if that was an alternate spelling and found this funny definition, and the delay made my post seem that much more overbearing and rude, and I'm a bit of a pedantic in my spare time, and I sometimes ramble more than I should. The point is, it wasn't supposed to be critical of the way things are done, it was just supposed to be amusing. My bad.


Beverly - May 18, 2003 3:28:38 pm PDT #2088 of 10005
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Some of us ramble

Whoo! Thanks for the shout-out, Beverly. :)

Heh. Remember Kevin Nealon's bit on SNL? "What I wanted to say was that when we get together and start to talk and somebody says something that--you know, why is that? Because of course when one person says something then another person, even if it isn't the person being addressed, wants to say something and everything just sort of goes somewhere else. But what I really wanted to say was..."

I'm so like that. Often that's why one of my posts will be hours after the discussion has moved on. I'm trying to reshape my post to, you know, actually refer to the logical thread of the conversation I wanted to address.

And on the other hand, I often have the thread in my teeth and damn all if I'm not going to have my say before I lose it again you know, and I can be just too rude and pointy, myself. So there you go.


Cindy - May 18, 2003 3:35:30 pm PDT #2089 of 10005
Nobody

Whee! An even longer shout-out.

(iow - I know exactly what you mean)


flea - May 18, 2003 3:35:44 pm PDT #2090 of 10005
information libertarian

I like the rambly people. I like the cool analytical people too.

Oh, Cindy, I did know the original Bronze was a WB board, or whatever channel Buffy used to be on. I can't keep all these newfangled TV channels straight. Get offa my lawn! And I hope I'm not coming from a perspective of naivete - I lurked obsessively on surviviorsucks during the first, and then second, survivor (in my defense, in the early days it was hilarious!), and there were some fandom gone kablooie issues, boy howdy. But in my experience what is hardest to cope with is sudden popularity - and we survived Firefly pretty well, despite a lot of fear, so I'm on the sunny side.


Cindy - May 18, 2003 3:38:08 pm PDT #2091 of 10005
Nobody

But in my experience what is hardest to cope with is sudden popularity - and we survived Firefly pretty well, despite a lot of fear, so I'm on the sunny side.

I agree, but still being in N. England, you're not going to get me to tell you when it's sunny (because Dickie Albert will prove me wrong).


Frankenbuddha - May 18, 2003 5:10:09 pm PDT #2092 of 10005
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

A question for Allyson -

Actually, despite having disagreed with her critical opinions (a gross generaliztion, but I think I'm closer to ted r on Buffy and Plei on Angel on how I feel, which I suspect is NOT Allyson's opinion) of the last couple of seasons of Buffy/Angel (and I seriously think if the TRAIN JOB had aired in its correct position, she'd see the light on that episode too :), I am curious what she thinks is going wrong here at Buffistas, or if she even thinks something's going wrong here. I get the IMPRESSION that things aren't to her liking (and I mean that as in a worried about the board way, rather than on a personal level). I mean, there are disagreements (the last round of that mieskie saga, et al being a prime example), but they seem to get resolved.

Yes - I am upset that John H. is gone (if that is a permanent). And if R. Lizard's "ex-Biffista" tag that Daniel mentioned is board related as opposed to the fact that she's got real life issues going on, I'm upset about that too (not that I'm not upset that she has real life issues, but that's outside the scope of the current discussion). BUT...

(as Pee Wee said, everybody's got a big BUT)

I think in the only terms possible for this kind of environment (and speaking as someone who joked about the scary internet people when I de-lurked, believe me, I wouldn't have de-lurked just anywhere. Or pretty much anywhere else, or, for that matter, anywhere else - period!), the system seems to be working. Ugly confrontations, yes! Growing pains, yes! But these thing seem to get resolved with as minimum an amount of fuss as is going to be possible under the circumstances.

But back to my original point, I'm just sincerely curious what Allyson would see be done differently, or what she feels isn't working. I like getting the perspective of experience, but I am also leary of people that have been bitten and therefore (possibly) forever shy. The perspecitve is useful, if not always to be followed, in other words.

Am I making any sense?

ETA some clarification - and still not sure I got it right.


askye - May 18, 2003 5:34:25 pm PDT #2093 of 10005
Thrive to spite them

Wolfram I think it is more my interpertation, it seems like more people say your post as humourous and I didn't so the problem was in the way I saw it.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 5:50:15 pm PDT #2094 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Is that question directed to me, Ken? It seems like you're asking other people what they think my opinion might be.