Seconded.
I also don't see a big with discussing both proposals at the same time. If Allyson and Betsy want to have the discussion and vote combined I would like that.
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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
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Laura - May 16, 2003 11:27:17 am PDT #1958 of 10005
Our wings are not tired.
Allyson - May 16, 2003 11:29:07 am PDT #1959 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I think I have all my secondsies.
§ ita § - May 16, 2003 11:29:50 am PDT #1960 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I am very against discussing both at the same time. Let's run Betsy's, and then Allyson.
Allyson - May 16, 2003 11:30:17 am PDT #1961 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I'll go on a ballot with Betsy any day of the week and twice on Sundays, with a hunk of bread to slurp up the gravy goodness.
Lyra Jane - May 16, 2003 11:31:35 am PDT #1962 of 10005
Up with the sun
I'd rather do Allyson's now. The grandfathering thing just does not seem to be getting proposed in a voteable form -- we've been waiting on it, IIRC, since March. If someone does the proposal, I'd say do it first; as it is, Allyson has the proposal and the seconds. let's do it. Grandfathering can wait a week.
Allyson - May 16, 2003 11:32:14 am PDT #1963 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
So we're opening lightbulbs for Betsy, and then next week we'll do up the Timster?
Allyson - May 16, 2003 11:33:13 am PDT #1964 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
so. confused.
§ ita § - May 16, 2003 11:33:52 am PDT #1965 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But Betsy a) proposed first b) got seconds c) is searching the thread for the precise language now.
I say when she has the language, we go with that, and when that's done, it's Minearville, ahoy!
Betsy HP - May 16, 2003 11:36:19 am PDT #1966 of 10005
If I only had a brain...
Lyra, I was waiting for a list of all decisions to which it would apply, and also for the previously queued votes to occur.
Here's the original proposal. [link]
Here's Cindy's Nilly. Cindy "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Mar 28, 2003 5:57:04 am EST
The proposal, therefore, is:
All decisions made between December 20, 2002 and March 20, 2003 [was within the last three months] are subject to a waiting period before being reopened. This waiting period shall be the standard Buffista post-vote waiting period, and shall begin from March 20, 2003 [was the passage of this proposal].
Wolfram - May 16, 2003 11:37:14 am PDT #1967 of 10005
Visilurking
By the time grandfather proposal gets voted on, many of the "old decisions" will have hit or nearly hit the 6 month moratorium anyway. Just something to think about.