I think I have all my secondsies.

I am very against discussing both at the same time. Let's run Betsy's, and then Allyson.

I'll go on a ballot with Betsy any day of the week and twice on Sundays, with a hunk of bread to slurp up the gravy goodness.

I'd rather do Allyson's now. The grandfathering thing just does not seem to be getting proposed in a voteable form -- we've been waiting on it, IIRC, since March. If someone does the proposal, I'd say do it first; as it is, Allyson has the proposal and the seconds. let's do it. Grandfathering can wait a week.

So we're opening lightbulbs for Betsy, and then next week we'll do up the Timster?

so. confused.

But Betsy a) proposed first b) got seconds c) is searching the thread for the precise language now.

I say when she has the language, we go with that, and when that's done, it's Minearville, ahoy!

Lyra, I was waiting for a list of all decisions to which it would apply, and also for the previously queued votes to occur.

Here's the original proposal. [link]

Here's Cindy's Nilly. Cindy "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Mar 28, 2003 5:57:04 am EST

The proposal, therefore, is:

All decisions made between December 20, 2002 and March 20, 2003 [was within the last three months] are subject to a waiting period before being reopened. This waiting period shall be the standard Buffista post-vote waiting period, and shall begin from March 20, 2003 [was the passage of this proposal].

By the time grandfather proposal gets voted on, many of the "old decisions" will have hit or nearly hit the 6 month moratorium anyway. Just something to think about.

I suspect we all took a sort of break, to recharge our bureau batteries, which may be why the delay. I tend to think we should run Betsy's first, if she can put it up today (it already had seconds; you know, I think I was one of them), and my apologies to Allyson.

Allyson, all, how would you all feel about a multi-item ballot, including the Minear Thread Proposal, and several thread-consolidaiton and/or future thread planning proposals? Because, I mean, I can see there's a groundswell for the Minear idea, and that's nice, but I'd sort of like to look at all the threads/thread ideas in context, amd make sure we don't duplicate efforts or tie outrselves into knots.

If that steps on people's toes, I'm perfectly willing to wait after Minear Thread has been discussed and voted on; but, you know, I also like the idea of many birds with one stone.

Also, thinking ahead, I wonder if some of this voting will fall into the people-absent-from-boards-due-to-F2F period, since I keep hearing about people arriving in LA like Wednesday. Er, lessee -- We can complete one week discuss/vote by the 23rd, and have that done; but should the second one have, say, an extended voting period, or extended talk period, to give equal yammering time to the F2Fers?