Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

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P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2003 12:29:26 am PDT #150 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

That's insanely cool about the interview.

It's a word that used to sting me. Now? It's lost its power, and that makes me clamhappy.


Julie - Apr 15, 2003 12:31:16 am PDT #151 of 10005

We talked about "cunt" and "fuck" and other such words, and he's in agreement that they are just that, words.

My perception is that this is an Americanism. In Australia the word is bad, but it's not the last word in bad words. My father would use it, for instance, in the car, but he'd think twice about "fuck", dependent upon the other passengers.

I think fuck has gone through a deliberate desensitisation process that has skipped other words, such as cunt, completely.

(edited for a third attempt at desensitisation)


Lee - Apr 15, 2003 12:33:18 am PDT #152 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

The Vagina Monologues includes a pretty funny part about reclaiming the word "cunt".


Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:35:09 am PDT #153 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Julie, he did mention that in the UK, not such a big deal, except that cunt is still a word for vagina, and it's still meant to be offensive, ergo, it's sexist.


bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:36:24 am PDT #154 of 10005

I think I started to love the word after seeing that Bette Midler clip. She was speaking before some women's organization and she talked about how strong women get treated in Hollywood. It was something like, "And then they started calling me that word. You know what word I'm talking about, ladies. It starts with 'c' and it ends with 't' and it's cunt."

It's a very satisfying word. Feels good in the mouth...BYOPunchline.


Fay - Apr 15, 2003 12:37:06 am PDT #155 of 10005
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I realized the other day that reams of fanfic have made cunt transparent to me.

It's no longer offensive. I need to remember that this is just me, and that many people are still shocked by it.

wrod. I'd embraced it (...er) after watching The Vagina Monologues, but reading fanfic has totally shifted my appropriateness-o-meter. (See also: "Shoot him in the cock! Shoot him in the fucking cock!" being yelled fervently at Jack Bauer on Season 1 of 24. Visualise the way my mother's eyebrow silently arched.)

...But I refuse to get behind warning her for not feeling the way you, Katie, Fay, Nutty want her to feel.

...is anyone else under the impression that I have already had anything to do with the Allyson thing?I'm waving the flag of Chill and Doblerize, but please note that my none of my posts concerned whether Allyson should feel good, feel bad, say sorry, hop on one leg or whistle the national anthem. The whole explosion happened after I'd gone to bed.

edited because of needless length of emotive quotation. And because saying 'I'm not bringing X up' when I'm referencing it as quickly as possible is clearly pants.


bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:38:54 am PDT #156 of 10005

I think Allyson should sing Bye Bye Bye. And FPA.


Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:40:14 am PDT #157 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I am drawing that pic of JC, and I WILL detail the pirate outfit.


Hil R. - Apr 15, 2003 12:40:19 am PDT #158 of 10005
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The first time I saw the word "cunt" was in Delores Claiborne, and I thought it meant pretty much the same thing as "bitch." It got a lot of raised eyebrows when I used it in a family game of Scrabble.


Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:41:22 am PDT #159 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I gotta tell ya. Having a linguist on Speed Dial is ridiculously handy.