B4: Not like Orwell at all...seriously...it's not like Orwell
Giles! I accidentally killed Spike. That's okay, right?
Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'
Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer
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Maysa - Apr 15, 2003 12:17:02 am PDT #140 of 10005
Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:18:07 am PDT #141 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Ah. Herein lies the disconnect
Yup. When I say subhuman, I think of those things that lived in the sewers in C.H.U.D.
I'm not kidding.
It's like "trolls" which is also "subhuman" you just stopped thinking about it.
When we call someone a troll, we are saying they are worthless to the community. That's the connotation.
bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:19:12 am PDT #142 of 10005
Oh man. I want Tim to apologize for Liam. And William. And Billy. And Billy. And William. And most especially for The Night of a Thousand Liams.
Julie - Apr 15, 2003 12:21:25 am PDT #143 of 10005
I'd ask for an apology for all of "Normal Again" but, heh, in my world the episode never happened.
"Orwellian" was unfortunate hyperbole.
I also read "subhuman" as hyperbole.
I also also think these are situation where people's individual definitions will differ and they will have various comfort levels. At the end of the day, there are lines in the concrete which no.one.must.cross, but explanations and context is important in determining those.
Steph L. - Apr 15, 2003 12:22:11 am PDT #144 of 10005
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
I'd like a retroactive apology for the Flashback Wigs of Doom. And the Lucky Charms accent.
Susan W. - Apr 15, 2003 12:23:07 am PDT #145 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
OK, I'm clear now, Allyson. Temporarily disconnecting overanalytical history junkie portion of brain for purposes of this discussion.
And, heading off to fold laundry and watch Futurama with DH.
P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2003 12:23:21 am PDT #146 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I realized the other day that reams of fanfic have made cunt transparent to me.
It's no longer offensive. I need to remember that this is just me, and that many people are still shocked by it.
bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:23:45 am PDT #147 of 10005
Oh and included in that apology should also be an apology for the dedication from "Lurking Liam" at the Bronze prom. Say my name, my ass.
ETA: Oh Plei, I use that word all the time. So does Allyson. We often raise eyebrows.
Steph L. - Apr 15, 2003 12:24:25 am PDT #148 of 10005
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
I'm that way, too, Plei. Not about that word, but about others. I genuinely forget that other people aren't as immune to such words as I am.
Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:26:46 am PDT #149 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Plei, i interviewed the writer for Slayer Slang for a total of EIGHT hours.
We talked about "cunt" and "fuck" and other such words, and he's in agreement that they are just that, words.
But "cunt" was a term for "diseased prositute" at one point, and the lingering connotation of absolute filth, genital rot, etc, permeates the word, still.