Julie, he did mention that in the UK, not such a big deal, except that cunt is still a word for vagina, and it's still meant to be offensive, ergo, it's sexist.
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Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:35:09 am PDT #153 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:36:24 am PDT #154 of 10005
I think I started to love the word after seeing that Bette Midler clip. She was speaking before some women's organization and she talked about how strong women get treated in Hollywood. It was something like, "And then they started calling me that word. You know what word I'm talking about, ladies. It starts with 'c' and it ends with 't' and it's cunt."
It's a very satisfying word. Feels good in the mouth...BYOPunchline.
Fay - Apr 15, 2003 12:37:06 am PDT #155 of 10005
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I realized the other day that reams of fanfic have made cunt transparent to me.
It's no longer offensive. I need to remember that this is just me, and that many people are still shocked by it.
wrod. I'd embraced it (...er) after watching The Vagina Monologues, but reading fanfic has totally shifted my appropriateness-o-meter. (See also: "Shoot him in the cock! Shoot him in the fucking cock!" being yelled fervently at Jack Bauer on Season 1 of 24. Visualise the way my mother's eyebrow silently arched.)
...But I refuse to get behind warning her for not feeling the way you, Katie, Fay, Nutty want her to feel.
...is anyone else under the impression that I have already had anything to do with the Allyson thing?I'm waving the flag of Chill and Doblerize, but please note that my none of my posts concerned whether Allyson should feel good, feel bad, say sorry, hop on one leg or whistle the national anthem. The whole explosion happened after I'd gone to bed.
edited because of needless length of emotive quotation. And because saying 'I'm not bringing X up' when I'm referencing it as quickly as possible is clearly pants.
bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:38:54 am PDT #156 of 10005
I think Allyson should sing Bye Bye Bye. And FPA.
Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:40:14 am PDT #157 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I am drawing that pic of JC, and I WILL detail the pirate outfit.
Hil R. - Apr 15, 2003 12:40:19 am PDT #158 of 10005
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
The first time I saw the word "cunt" was in Delores Claiborne, and I thought it meant pretty much the same thing as "bitch." It got a lot of raised eyebrows when I used it in a family game of Scrabble.
Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:41:22 am PDT #159 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I gotta tell ya. Having a linguist on Speed Dial is ridiculously handy.
bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:41:32 am PDT #160 of 10005
Oh come on! Gimme some fist-pumping-action!
Lee - Apr 15, 2003 12:41:59 am PDT #161 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I think Allyson should sing Bye Bye Bye. And FPA.
I want to add "and a Bee Gees song", but I don't know what FPA is. Would I be repetitive if I did?
On edit: And now I do.
Julie - Apr 15, 2003 12:42:26 am PDT #162 of 10005
Allyson, I honestly think that here, it's just a word. It's a word that is an extreme version of "bad person", sure, but it is no longer a way of actually calling someone a vagina.
I agree it also has the sexist elements of meaning vagina, but when used in the same way as "bastard" or "dickhead", I think the sexism has been lost. I'm far more likely to hear a male use it for another male, than as a female putdown.