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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Nutty - May 05, 2003 10:26:41 am PDT #1341 of 10005
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I'm generally against the proposal, because I don't think it will fix the problem we have. I will, however, second the proposal to get it to the voting stage, because I think it's a worthwhile thing to hash out and/or vote on.


Aims - May 05, 2003 10:30:07 am PDT #1342 of 10005
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I would need to know more about how the two people even found out about the board before deciding if this is a good enough reason.

If this is the situation I believe it to be, it was mentioned to her friends during normal conversations. When said poster began withdrawing from "friends" they lurked, and it went from there.


Sophia Brooks - May 05, 2003 10:36:07 am PDT #1343 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am starting to go through WX Bureacracy to help Nutty with her cataloging of Buffista procedure. Because I can never remember, I did do up a Short Form of voting procedure to help us keep track of how manyseconds, etc.

Hopefully someone can help clean it up and we can post it somewhere quick, until we get the big project done?

Voting Procedure Short form

1. A Buffista makes a proposal in Bureacracy.

2. Four Buffistae are needed to second the proposal.

3. If/when that occurs, we need to do the following

  • open up lightbulb thread
  • post the proposal in the lightbulb thread
  • announce the discussion in press with a link to the lightbulb thread.

4. Discuss for 4 days.

5. At the end of 4 days, the original proposer re-forms the proposal into a ballot, trying to do this in the most fair way. The proposer has final say over the ballot wording and voting procedure (ex. preferential voting). It may be helpful for those who don't like to read the long discussions for someone to volunteer to sum up the pro and con arguments. We need to:

  • create a ballot (Jon B)
  • get a volunteer to count votes
  • announce voting in Press
  • close the lightbulbs thread

5. Vote for 3 days.

6. Count the votes. The proposal must win a true majority (51% of the vote). 42 Buffistas must vote for the vote to be valid. The result is posted in Press.

7. There is then a 6 month moratorium on discussion/proposing of this item.


Jesse - May 05, 2003 10:39:16 am PDT #1344 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Like other people have said, I don't really see the point, but am happy to second the proposal to move it to Formal Discussion time.


§ ita § - May 05, 2003 10:45:53 am PDT #1345 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Alright. That makes 4. I'm opening the thread. DX? Ready?


DXMachina - May 05, 2003 11:00:17 am PDT #1346 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

No, because I have to go to a meeting. Back in a bit.


Lyra Jane - May 05, 2003 11:02:56 am PDT #1347 of 10005
Up with the sun

I don't like the proposal, but I'll talk about why later.


brenda m - May 05, 2003 11:10:24 am PDT #1348 of 10005
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Sophia, that looks like a very good, clear summation.


DXMachina - May 05, 2003 11:27:30 am PDT #1349 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I've posted the announcement in Press and in Lightbulb. Could someone else check the Press announcement to make sure I got the dates right?

Lightbuld discussion starts here:

DXMachina "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" May 5, 2003 1:24:15 pm EDT


Wolfram - May 05, 2003 11:42:28 am PDT #1350 of 10005
Visilurking

Since I wasn't really clear before, I meant that just because I didn't bring up the vote on "old issues" doesn't mean it isn't important to me that it be voted on. I'd really like to see this become the next issue in lightbulbs regardless of whether we have a list of "old issues" or not.