It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Susan W. - Apr 15, 2003 12:12:50 am PDT #134 of 10005
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I tend to use the term subhuman mainly to describe my brother, and also a couple of bands.

I don't have any more negative crap attached to it than I do to, say, dumbfuck, dipshit, asswipe, or fartknocker.

Ah. Herein lies the disconnect. For me, the term takes me back to various primary source material I read for one class or another re: white views of African slaves, English views of the Irish around the time of the Famine, etc.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2003 12:12:51 am PDT #135 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can we get an apology from FBC for cancelling Firefly? I'm still suffering over here.


P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2003 12:12:55 am PDT #136 of 10005
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Can I get a retroactive apology for Dad? Please?

Files and Records can deliver it to me, nekkid.


Steph L. - Apr 15, 2003 12:14:04 am PDT #137 of 10005
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I tend to use the term subhuman mainly to describe my brother, and also a couple of bands.

I don't have any more negative crap attached to it than I do to, say, dumbfuck, dipshit, asswipe, or fartknocker.

Ah. Herein lies the disconnect. For me, the term takes me back to various primary source material I read for one class or another re: white views of African slaves, English views of the Irish around the time of the Famine, etc.

I had the same problem in Natter the other day, with the word "schmoopy." Seriously.


Lee - Apr 15, 2003 12:14:30 am PDT #138 of 10005
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think Tim should retroactively apologize for the numerous layers of clothing Gunn is always wearing.

and show he's really sorry by never making Gunn wear a shirt again.


bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:14:51 am PDT #139 of 10005

I want an apology request thread.

Thread proliferation! Thread proliferation!

Hey, someone had to do it.

And you know, we were making a joke at dinner the other night that for the series finale, we should do an ad "from the writers" apologizing for these things. Many of the ones mentioned above were discussed.


Maysa - Apr 15, 2003 12:17:02 am PDT #140 of 10005

B4: Not like Orwell at all...seriously...it's not like Orwell


Allyson - Apr 15, 2003 12:18:07 am PDT #141 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Ah. Herein lies the disconnect

Yup. When I say subhuman, I think of those things that lived in the sewers in C.H.U.D.

I'm not kidding.

It's like "trolls" which is also "subhuman" you just stopped thinking about it.

When we call someone a troll, we are saying they are worthless to the community. That's the connotation.


bitterchick - Apr 15, 2003 12:19:12 am PDT #142 of 10005

Oh man. I want Tim to apologize for Liam. And William. And Billy. And Billy. And William. And most especially for The Night of a Thousand Liams.


Julie - Apr 15, 2003 12:21:25 am PDT #143 of 10005

I'd ask for an apology for all of "Normal Again" but, heh, in my world the episode never happened.

"Orwellian" was unfortunate hyperbole.

I also read "subhuman" as hyperbole.

I also also think these are situation where people's individual definitions will differ and they will have various comfort levels. At the end of the day, there are lines in the concrete which no.one.must.cross, but explanations and context is important in determining those.