Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Dana - Oct 16, 2016 10:09:15 am PDT #9932 of 10289
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Okay, thanks.


SailAweigh - Oct 16, 2016 10:24:01 am PDT #9933 of 10289
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Make it 62. I just want him off the board one way or another. As he hurt even one of us, he hurt all of us.

editted to correct condition of statement.


Laga - Oct 16, 2016 10:24:38 am PDT #9934 of 10289
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

My heart is broken. Sunil is an unofficial member of my RL family. But I cannot ignore the voices of those he has hurt. I support the BS consensus.


Dana - Oct 16, 2016 10:25:44 am PDT #9935 of 10289
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

The revised proposal is here: Dana "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" Oct 16, 2016 11:09:08 am PDT

If I remember correctly, and it's three days of discussion, that would mean starting the vote on the 18th.


Laura - Oct 16, 2016 10:34:35 am PDT #9936 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

I'm sorry, Laga. This isn't easy for a lot us us. It brought out my mama bear instincts though. My cubs have been hurt.


Theresa - Oct 16, 2016 10:55:28 am PDT #9937 of 10289
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I am shocked. I'm sorry that anyone felt uncomfortable and I'm grateful to Jessica for sharing her experience. I support the members of the board who have been hurt and whatever needs to be done to make the board a safe place. Thank you Dana for speaking up.

That's all that I've got because I'm still processing.


Jesse - Oct 16, 2016 10:56:36 am PDT #9938 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Right, banning is not a voting issue, but I feel like bypassing our stated procedure should be.

That seems reasonable to me.


Hil R. - Oct 16, 2016 11:03:43 am PDT #9939 of 10289
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I've been messaging a bit in Twitter messages with one of the people who's speaking out against Sunil there. I only told her about things that I'd personally seen -- anything that happened to someone else, that's their story to tell -- but I just wanted her to know that she wasn't alone, and that there's history here, and that people have been seeing this since college. I didn't mention Buffistas by name.


Connie Neil - Oct 16, 2016 11:14:26 am PDT #9940 of 10289
brillig

I am in favor of doing this formally, of voting for taking swift action in the face of egregious behavior. Every clear, official process that we take on this gives it more weight. No one can say "Oh, a bunch of people got together over the weekend and banned me from their silly board."


msbelle - Oct 16, 2016 11:14:49 am PDT #9941 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

One site, The Book Smugglers, [link] has removed his work for sale and stopped work with him on future publications. So the severity within the SFF community is wide.